New HDR Pro camera: AMP HDR

Am I the only one that thinks this looks like garbage? Sure, it may have it's applications in a creative sense, but I just can't see this having a wide range of uses. I like dynamic range as much as the next guy, but this just looks too bizarre for me.
 
I've read that color film was received with the same initial derision. I think it's the crazy tonemapping that you are referring to as garbage - I have the same issue with stills processed that way. But there are plenty of guys out there processing their images in a way that looks completely natural. Since this camera claims it has RAW output, think about the opportunity to grade the images properly and having a huge expose range and color gamut to work with.

Thanks for posting this Vincent, it could lead to something interesting.
 
They seemed to go out of their way to shoot boring compositions and boring subjects in order to show off their camera.

And yeah, if this leads to a bunch of people going crazy with tonemapping, I think I'd rather avoid it altogether as that kind of photography looks really stupid.
 
That extreme tonemapping looks ridiculous.
I really hope the kids don't start using that garbage in the latest blockbusters.
There were a few good shots there with natural-looking mapping, I like that.
 
I think it's a great camera, but I'd rather see some decent example images, not horribly ugly ones... I am curious as to the features of this camera. Does anyone know the sensors being used?
 
SOLD. I would love a video camera that could do HDR.
I shoot a lot of large exposure range places and it would resolve those problems.
 
I think the video that is coming out of this camera looks like a beginner photographer's first HDR attempt. Too psychedelic. The best HDR type camera out right now is the RED EPIC. 14 or so stops of dynamic range.
 
mb72378 said:
I think the video that is coming out of this camera looks like a beginner photographer's first HDR attempt. Too psychedelic. The best HDR type camera out right now is the RED EPIC. 14 or so stops of dynamic range.
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if you watch the second vid, you'll see that you have choices when it comes to tonemapping. However, if you hate the plastic look of unnaturally tonemapped HDR, then you're not gonna be happy with what is to come. I think more people love this look than hate it. And I think we will see it make it's way into mainstream media.

As far as the EPIC being superior at HDR, I dont think so. The epic only has one sensor and uses 2 different images captured separately to create it's HDR, much like a DSLR does with stills. So while it may look ok some times, other times, when things are moving across the frame, you will see anomalies. Beam splitter into multiple sensors seems like the smartest and most high quality way to go. Now whether the sensors in this particular camera are worth a crap or not remains to be seen...
 
cheezweezl said:
if you watch the second vid, you'll see that you have choices when it comes to tonemapping. However, if you hate the plastic look of unnaturally tonemapped HDR, then you're not gonna be happy with what is to come. I think more people love this look than hate it. And I think we will see it make it's way into mainstream media.

As far as the EPIC being superior at HDR, I dont think so. The epic only has one sensor and uses 2 different images captured separately to create it's HDR, much like a DSLR does with stills. So while it may look ok some times, other times, when things are moving across the frame, you will see anomalies. Beam splitter into multiple sensors seems like the smartest and most high quality way to go. Now whether the sensors in this particular camera are worth a crap or not remains to be seen...
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I sincerely disagree. A simple tonemapped image does not make it HDR. The real point of HDR is to capture details at both extremes of lightness and darkness. That's what the Red cameras and DSLR's (when you bracket) do. Just watch this video. This is the best example of TRUE HDR video that can be done right now.

By the way....the point you made regarding everyone loving the plastic unnatural tonemapped look.....you're VERY mistaken.

http://vimeo.com/14821961

 
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mb72378 said:
I sincerely disagree. A simple tonemapped image does not make it HDR. The real point of HDR is to capture details at both extremes of lightness and darkness. That's what the Red cameras and DSLR's (when you bracket) do. Just watch this video. This is the best example of TRUE HDR video that can be done right now.

By the way....the point you made regarding everyone loving the plastic unnatural tonemapped look.....you're VERY mistaken.

http://vimeo.com/14821961
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yes i am fully aware what HDR is and how it works. i have shot a ton of it. i never said anything about a single tonemapped image. i wonder if you even read my post...

currently, the only way to acheive HDR images is through multiple exposures captured over time. if you're shooting a landscape, it's fine as nothing moves too much during the time it takes to capture all of your images. but what if you're shooting a car race. with a bracketed DSLR or using the RED, you would end up with unusable images because a moving car will travel a great distance during the time it takes to capture all of your images. with a beamsplitter into 3 different sensors, you are capturing 3 bracketed images at exactly the same time and at the same shutter speed. you can't do any better than that. now assuming this camera has nice looking sensors, a tonemapping option that suits your taste, or will record 3 separate streams for endless post options, i don't see any way you could still think that the RED is a better method of capturing HDR.

as far as my comment about people loving the plastic look, i can't speak for north carolina, but here in LA, a lot of people i know love it and want it in their projects. the only people who seem to hate it are photographers and camera purists. i have no issue with it. i am more jazzed about crazy DR but being able to achieve the crazy plastic look is exciting to me as well.

and that video, i have seen before. the landscape shot looks good both ways. but the shot of the guy flickers and definitely has it's issues.
 
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agree to disagree....and frankly which state I live is makes no difference. It's all personal preference. Good Day! :laugh:
 
mb72378 said:
agree to disagree....and frankly which state I live is makes no difference. It's all personal preference. Good Day! :laugh:
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I don't really understand all the negativity in this topic. This supposedly upcoming camera is just another tool. The more tools the merrier...right!? And also, exposing to different frames at a different time can't possibly be a better method at doing HDR than this. Period.

Such a system has great potential. Who knows how good the final images will be, but surely this camera will be more than applicable for certain types of shots, to put it mildly.
 
No negativity here. I felt like he was starting to state that I was wrong simply because my opinion did not align with his. Geographic location doesn't determine opinion so I thought his comment on "how things are in NC" was rude and distasteful.

Different strokes for different folks is all. I posted my opinion. I respect his even if I don't agree with it.
 
The product camera is a proto, the result of research at Carnegie Mellon as I recall. Anyway, HDR is an evolving paradigm and old schoolers like me will tell you that we are THRILLED it's out of the skunkworks and in beta stage. I do sympathize with other posters that have noted the very low production value of the demos, but as a PTO wonk I can assure you, it's just to drum up venture capitol. Technically, the three sensor HDR concept is a very good one though I'll guess an integrated sensor, sans the beam splitter, will be the next iteration.
Also as i recall, RED was featuring HDR video through a different implementation in Epic, but i can't possibly remember very post I read.
Rock on HDRV!
 
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