NEW HD -ON CAMERA LCD's?

Yes there are a few new ones floating around. Even at the Steadicam booth, I had never seen the version of a monitor they used and the guy said they just had them made for them. One of these had an actually 1080 res screen: TV Logic or Totevision (which all may have been around and I am not sure if "Totevision" is the right name). It seemed like there are more in the high end market.
 
Does Totevision have a new one out? The 7" 703HD has been around for a while and works nicely with the HVX, but it'd be interesting if they've made a new one specifically for this market .
 
Also j-Labs had a 1080 res screen. 15.4" amazing quality and performance geared for the high end market. Price is $6500.

Also found a 4.8" SWIT prototype monitor on display. 16x9 aspect with variety of battery options like any DV batt out there. Used it with the Multi Rig Pro and it was sweet, of course EX1 users probably don't need it, but I have a Canon XH-A1. Very portable, will be released in June. Looked like component, composite and HD SDI, but not sure as they don;t speak much English at the booth.
 
I saw the Carrion at the RedRock booth, the picture was fantastic. as were the controls. It seemed a bit bulky, but otherwise was pretty awesome for a list of $1945 or so (I think) And thats including HDSDI. It's 8.4", which is why I thought it was bulky.

I also saw the newest Nebtek NEB70HD (and HDS), they now have 600nit analoge HD for $1875. The picture was fantastic. The HDSDI version is $2345. Both come with a battery mount, either canon, sony, jvc, pani, anton bauer, IDX, or PAG. It also has a flip function, and better yet, 4 levels of edge sharpening to assist in focusing.

I still hate that IKAN.

I talked with Dennis of Cinevate, he said they may be working on a sub $1000 LCD in the next 6mo to a year that will be 8.4" and have full 720P native resolution.

I saw the monitors on the steadicams, they are very nice.

There were several other places that had 7" monitors, but I got the impression that they were all WAY out of my price range.

Varizomm/Swit has some crap. It's cheap, it's crap.

-Tom
 
oh yes, forgot about the Carrion. Great monitor.

I use mine for travel (Ikan), so light and small is more important than big and expensive (for use with framing for a 35mm). Should have mentioned my preference.
 
Everyone is talking about new cameras but I am also more interested in the new LDC monitors. Come on, why does this market develop so slow? I really hope 1280x720 monitors with proper focus assist functions will be out soon.

So far only the Panasonic's are really good, but also very expensive.
 
Marshall has a new monitor coming out that looks very attractive. It is similar to our fave 7" Marshall for the HVX200 but this new one is built into a smaller case design (looks like hard plastic as opposed to metal). It's not the rackmount style. It has loads of features, including programable user buttons and a backside port for optional HD-SDI (or HDMI) input and ouput connections. The price is $999 and it comes out in August [details subject to change without notice].

Of course, Luis Sinibaldi's Carrion was on display at the Red Rock booth. He did a great job with that one. Only sorry we didn't get to connect at the show!

TVLogic also had some really nice monitors loaded with features. There was a 7" one for $2500 and a 9" one for $4000. Pricey, but they were beautiful.
 
Not sure DC if you are talking about the new, very small prototype monitors Marshall had. Anyone see those? No blue gun, but another small monitor like the one at the Swit booth.

Shawn, I agree the Swit booth was a surprise. I hooked up my XH-A1 to the small one because I was at the DV TEC booth close by (with the Multi Rig Pro) and the guys at the booth from Swit went crazy. They took pictures and just thought it was a hoot (guess no one has hooked it up to a rig). It was composite but still looked good.
 
Luis Caffesse said:
Do you know if it has the same screen resolution?
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I can't say for certain, but I think so or thereabouts.

FatDaddy said:
Not sure DC if you are talking about the new, very small prototype monitors Marshall had. Anyone see those? No blue gun, but another small monitor like the one at the Swit booth.
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Yeah, those are probably the ones. There was no blue gun BUT . . . the monitor has four Function buttons that can be assigned. I was flipping through the menu system and it seems that many functions were not yet implemented. With some manipulation, I was able to find a setting to turn the screen blue. I'm thinking a blue gun can be implemented and assigned to a Function button. Also, there was a USB connection for connecting to a computer - makes for easy firmware updating. :)
 
I told the Marshall guy you can throw blue gel over it and get very close. I like the small monitors for travel or a second client monitor (you keep the nice one :-).
 

Just for the record. my monitor Starts ad $1520 with no HD-SDI and $1820 for 1 HD-SDI in/out. it also supports RED One camera menus (only one that I know in the market that does this) and has adjustable battery plates.

DC, yeah sorry we didn't meet at nab. I was mostly showing off the monitor. I even took it at the phantom booth and they Sales guy thought it was worth $4500 after seeing the image and hearing the options. So they might carry it on their rentals. (I'll talk to them about it)

Florisvaneck, I've put my 8.4" against the $4890 (msrp.) panasonic, and I have to tell you, me and a few others (red users) thought the Carrion Looked slighly better. (The panasonic has waveform and mine doesn't) but also mine has tons of thing the panasonic doesn't have. zoom, image flip, easy battery plate change, lighter in weight, better anti-reflective coating, etc...

Also the new HPX-170 from panasonic has waveform monitor, and seems like the new cameras coming on the market are having that option, which will make the option on a monitor obsolete.
 
Thanks for your reply siniarch.

I am considering the Panasonic BT-LH80W, the new Nebtek and the Carrion c with Anton Bauer or IDX mount. I really like your monitor and read good things about it. What I like from the Panasonic is the built-in waveform monitor. But you are right about it becoming adopted on new cameras. What I like about your monitor is that it is better in outdoor daylight situations (from what I have read from multiple users). I guess focus in red is a nice feature but with 1,024x768 not that needed. In terms of price your monitor wins from the other two. I still would like to know what happens when I have a problem with my monitor. Can I send it back to you in that case so you can check it (and fix it, maybe at additional expense) and fix it. It looks very decent and I don't expect it to happen, but you never know. Also, can I mount the Carrion on my camera? If so, which mounting arm do you recommend?

Many thanks in advance.
 
Hey florisvaneck,

Thanks again for your interest in the Carrion. What happens if there is a problem with the monitor is I fix it. I haven't established a warranty policy yet, but as a new guy I need to make sure that my clients are happy. Otherwise, I will get a bad rep and no one will buy from me. To that end I intend to do my best to fix everyones problems.

I am not in it to lose money either, so If you open up the unit, then the warranty is void. Meaning I won't feel like I should take care of the problem without charging for it. But if its a manufacturing defect then its on me.

I have found some of the most expensive and trusted components and I have very good faith that they will work properly. But also understand that I'm just starting out. If you want track record, Panasonic, has been around much longer and is able to take a hit better than I can. On the other hand, note that my HVX burned the firewireport just after warranty was over and I had to cough up $379. So even they get faulty or prone to damage parts.

As for the arm, I use a Heavy Duty Noga arm (I purchase it from Film tools for $185 I believe) but my friend has used it with the Zamerican Arm from Zacuto and loves it.

Thank you again,
Luis
 
siniarch said:
DC, yeah sorry we didn't meet at nab. I was mostly showing off the monitor. I even took it at the phantom booth and they Sales guy thought it was worth $4500 after seeing the image and hearing the options. So they might carry it on their rentals. (I'll talk to them about it)
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Totally awesome, Luis! Your monitor really packs in the features and quality at a breakthrough price. Best of luck with all that.

Hey, I PM'ed you the other day. I'm hoping we can discuss . . .
 
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