New HD-DVD Disc is 51 gb's -- Surpassng BlueRay

Cynic821 said:
sorry brandon, but i do not trust you. no offense.
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fine, put 10 non-filmmakers in a room, and play them 480 footage on an HD-TV and they won't think anything's wrong.
 
Based on your prior opinions of things, and the way they are presented ,I have decided that trusting your opinion will not neccesarily agree with how i would think about the same thing.

Example: you think david caruso is one of the worst actors you have ever seen.

I think he is a damn good actor, working bad dailouge in the scripts.
 
Cynic821 said:
Based on your prior opinions of things, and the way they are presented ,I have decided that trusting your opinion will not neccesarily agree with how i would think about the same thing.

Example: you think david caruso is one of the worst actors you have ever seen.

I think he is a damn good actor, working bad dailouge in the scripts.
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It's not about agreeing about people not caring about the way footage looks... it's an objective fact... The general public is WAY more forgiving than us here on the boards...

And David Caruso IS a LOUSY actor, as I've seen him in a lot more than just CSI: Miami... but alas I digress...
 
Ya yo ya yo!

Dreamin' Don't give it up, Luffy!
Dreamin' Don't give it up Zolo!
Dreamin' Don't give it up Nami!
Dreamin'
Don't give it, give it up, give it up, give it up, give it up,
give it up, give it up!

Here's how the story goes we find out 'bout a treasure in the Grand Line there's no doubt the pirate who's eye is on it he'll sing: I'll be King of the Pirates! I'm gonna be King!

Ya yo, ya yo ya yo, ho ho!
His name is Luffy.
That's Monkey D. Luffy
Gonna be King of the Pirates!
He's made of rubber! How did that happen? Yo ho ho he took a bite of gum-gum!
Ya yo ya yo!

His name's Zolo he's like a samuri.
And a L-A-D-Y Nami's not shy.
Usopp's doin' that marksman thing.
And Sanji's cookin' for the would-be King!

Ya yo, ya yo ya yo, ho ho!
Set sail for One Peice! It's the name of the treasure.
In the Grand Line!
Ya yo, ya yo!
Set sail for One Piece!
 
Cynic821 said:
Based on your prior opinions of things, and the way they are presented ,I have decided that trusting your opinion will not neccesarily agree with how i would think about the same thing.

Example: you think david caruso is one of the worst actors you have ever seen.

I think he is a damn good actor, working bad dailouge in the scripts.
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Oh cmon, you cant honestly say that Caruso's execution of those lines are good. Not what hes saying, but HOW hes saying it. ITS HORRIBLE.

example: "blah blah blah" :dramatic pause: :put sunglasses on: "blah blah blah" :exit screen left:

WOW mr. Caruso, that was amazing. Can you do that EVERY time?
"sure."

HD-DVD will win, hands down. Simply put, it sounds better and more familiar. Thank you

just my 2 cents.
 
your welcome, and Kholi...

I like one peice, i used to watch One Peice religously. The toilet backed up so bad one time it was flooding the entire hallway outside of the bathroom, but i waited till the commercial break to go and turn it off. :p
 
Cynic821 said:
You speak in too many extremes for me to take your points , which are valid, seriously though. 1080p to 480i is easily decernable to even the least informed consumer
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I don't understand which part of my reply was that extreme. I have sat and watched things with my girlfriend on a BluRay DVD player on a 1080p TV and she couldn't tell that much of a difference between a normal DVD playing on the same TV, and she is indicative of the general consumer.

Your optimism in the consumer isn't properly placed, in my opinion. You give them too much credit. If the consumer did care so much, then HD in broadcast and on disc would be taking off at a much more rapid pace. It's merely not innovative enough to spur the bulk of the populous to give up their hard earned cashed for overpriced hardware. True innovations/improvements/jumps in technology will generally do this, see the iPod, laptop, flat screen TV's, cell phones, etc.

I don't even understand what is the point of putting all this effort into something that the majority of people couldn't care less about. If it's not benefitting society as a whole that where is the purpose. A higher resolution movie has no benefit on any major scale so why waste resources on the format that carries it? I would like to hear your response, or anyone elses, to this.
 
Dang. Never got into it.

I watched Eureka earlier last year, ended up getting it all at aonce and lost sleep over not wanting to stop. It's great.
 
oneinfiniteloop said:
I don't understand which part of my reply was that extreme. I have sat and watched things with my girlfriend on a BluRay DVD player on a 1080p TV and she couldn't tell that much of a difference between a normal DVD playing on the same TV, and she is indicative of the general consumer.

Your optimism in the consumer isn't properly placed, in my opinion. You give them too much credit. If the consumer did care so much, then HD in broadcast and on disc would be taking off at a much more rapid pace. It's merely not innovative enough to spur the bulk of the populous to give up their hard earned cashed for overpriced hardware. True innovations/improvements/jumps in technology will generally do this, see the iPod, laptop, flat screen TV's, cell phones, etc.

I don't even understand what is the point of putting all this effort into something that the majority of people couldn't care less about. If it's not benefitting society as a whole that where is the purpose. A higher resolution movie has no benefit on any major scale so why waste resources on the format that carries it? I would like to hear your response, or anyone elses, to this.
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The short of it, is that there is a TON of stuff that doesnt benifit society as a whole. Take a ferrari , unneccessary auto that does the same job as a Hyundai. But Ferrari is still in business and prospering. Doesnt benifit society, but makes that person who wanted it feel better inside. lifes to short to not enjoy what technology can bring us. Not innovative? Agreed, but its a market none the less that I embrace, why not? And from my experiences, talkings and readings, i disagree and just dont beleive what you say about people not seeing the difference.
 
Not saying you are saying its inconvient, but whats inconvenient about buying an HDTV, a player, ONE cable (HDMI) pluggin it in and it working?
 
I don't think that HDTV is inconvenient. I don't think that the average consumer thinks it so either. I think the "average" consumer thinks it is convenient because it is thinner. It takes up less space. That is the main appeal of an HDTV to the main consumer. The reason it hasn't had large spread penetration is because of price. That is changing as is market penetration. You see many people with HDTV's and then stretch their 4:3 sd signal across the whole screen.

HD discs on the other hand don't offer an added level of "convenience" to the average consumer. Only cost.

My opinion.

Thanks,
Jason
 
Ramjet1979 said:
HD discs on the other hand don't offer an added level of "convenience" to the average consumer. Only cost.
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True, but the same argument was being about HDTV's 6 years ago when they were 10,000 dollars a pop. In 2-3 years, HD-DVD's will be the norm and we will be having this identical argument in a different thread about something else.
 
Point taken. When HD discs (or more importantly the players) become more cost comparitive to SD discs, then convenience becomes a non issue. The choice would be obvious to the consumer. But, while there is still such a large discrepency in pricing between the two, I don't think the everyday consumer is going to find a reason to make the upgrade.

Same with the 10k HDTV's of yesteryear.

Point being, the everyday buyer is only going to shell out the extra dollars for something that add's a good deal of convenience to them. Often times even at the sacrifice of quality. The music world is a good example.

Jason
 
AllAroundFilmLV said:
True, but the same argument was being about HDTV's 6 years ago when they were 10,000 dollars a pop.
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We're still having this same argument, because here it is six years later, HDTVs are $600 now, and they're STILL not the norm. We're at about 15% market penetration in the US. Maybe 3 years from now HDTV will be commonplace, but the odds are still almost 7 to 1 against someone having an HDTV in their house.

In 2-3 years, HD-DVD's will be the norm
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More like about 10-15, if the adoption rate of HDTV is any indication.
 
Ramjet1979 said:
Point being, the everyday buyer is only going to shell out the extra dollars for something that add's a good deal of convenience to them. Often times even at the sacrifice of quality. The music world is a good example.
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iPod vs. SACD, for example?
 
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