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Bob looks great, what did you use to encode this for the web?bgundu said:Ok kids. Here's my composite in Shake 4.0 using Keylight. I was very impressed with the HVX. Seems as though the blue channel is the noisiest. Stay away from blue screens! Keep in mind that this clip has been compressed for the web.
http://10framehandles.com/movies/HVX_Comp_BobGundu.mov
Enjoy,
Bob
ChuckS said:Bob looks great, what did you use to encode this for the web?
I'm not interested in keying anything, I just want to see the stuff. The compression bgundu used on his key looked fantastic, and PC users can't see the "original footage" without some kind of conversion.Dmitry Kichenko said:Squeezing won't do. We need the original footage, not the Sorenson video compressed clips.
Haakon said:I'm not interested in keying anything, I just want to see the stuff. The compression bgundu used on his key looked fantastic, and PC users can't see the "original footage" without some kind of conversion.
PLEASE convert the original clips with Sorenson, and if you need hosting space/bandwidth, I will be happy to provide.
Thank you in advance.
P.S. - Is anyone able to read the metadata and determine what detail level was set for these clips?
bgundu said:Ok kids. Here's my composite in Shake 4.0 using Keylight.
Bob
Jim Arthurs said:Hey, Bob, thanks for posting the clip in Sorenson! While H264 has its uses, I think that good old Sorenson does a fine job, and doesn't jack up the gamma. I used it as well for my 3D tracking test.
Great key work, I see you addressed that thin dark line on his shoulders/ears, which is simply lack of fill light to counter the green spill, quite nicely. Most of the key examples I've seen with this clp kind of let that slip by or over choke that puppy.I can't access the raw footage, but when I took that tiff of a frame into AE I just breathed a sigh of relief. It will work as advertised.
Anyway, based on this and other examples I've seen, the HVX will be best in class for keying, period. Sure, hook up your Canon to your, ah, "portable" HD-SDI NLE if you want, but for out-of-the-box, in-the-field keying goodness the HVX can't be beat. And this is with HD material and higher compression... that DVCPRO 50 will simply rule the SD world for inexpensive key sourcing.
My biggest fears until recently were with the HVX having A.) too soft a picture with detail set very low (as my Z1 was... anything less than 10 was way too soft) or B.) some trace of edge enhancement still visible at those low detail levels. Edge enhancement is a matte killer... simply unusable without massive choking or extensive hand work.
Many factors will influence a decision on which camera to buy. I place keying high on my personal list, and keying from the cameras built in recording media even higher. Add over and under-cranking, shooting 1080 for FX plates, and the first ever in a prosumer camcorder ability to do true single frame and interval recording, I am 100% sold.
Jim Arthurs