F55: New F5/55 capabilities?

^ like Doug, I honestly find many clients can be talked into it. The words "future proof" and "high quality images" come to mind, and seeing is really believing. I also have a client who will use some of the 4k frame grabs as still photos. I will be lighting certain scenes the same as I would with any commercial photography, so he doesn't have to hire a separate photographer to shoot his stills that he only needs for his website. That's just one example of a "benefit".

On the opposite end of the spectrum some work I did last year with the F55 (shot in 4k) will be screening at two big film festivals here in Canada and both will only screen in HD. The good thing however is after the films are done with the film festival circuit and we look at distribution we can boast that the master is available in 4k - if anyone will care about that today I don't know but in 8 months who knows.
 
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Yeah, that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about, Dennis. You don't sit around waiting for clients to ask for something new, you have to be proactive and serve as an advisor. That's part of our job.
 
Gentleman, I'm sure I will be hooked once I've seen 4K images with my own eyes, however it's not the most important feature for me on these newer cameras, it's the higher frame rates that I'm interested in. I suppose that's the beauty of these new cameras, 4K,2K,1080p, it can do them all. Like Dennis said, what can they add to make us buy the next generation? It will be sensors, 3x35mm, full frame perhaps, I still think Sony sold the F65 short, it should of had a 65mm sensor!

I believe we are going to have 4K Blu Rays this year, but is this really going to take off? I do buy Blu Rays, but the majority of people I know, still buy DVD's! I've come to the conclusion that whatever format you film in, 4K,2K,1080p, it all looks good. Even SD has it's place, I'm still looking for a nice 80's Sony tube camera, as it has a look that can't be replicated.


I wonder what Troy would make of the F55? :love4:

The words "future proof" are non existent in our world, it will be 8K next, or perhaps higher.

Dennis, is this the F77 you were talking about? http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/hingsberg/media/Sony-PMW-F77_zpsc2ada146.jpg.html

Hahaha
 
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It has to be careful that "4k" doesn't become the box that everything gets counted as good, because what we are really talking about here is also S-35 sensor with 14 stops of dynamic range, cinema quality lenses, high frame rates, raw or log workflows, top notch post work and talent on both sides of the lens. Qualitatively and feature wise, that's a lot more than just pixels. I know I wouldn't want somebody marching into a client and taking away business from a F35 or Alexa because of a 4k selling job, if the quality wasn't otherwise equal or better. And in many cases, it won't be.

But if we allow "4k" as the acronym to become the differentiator, then the unintended consequence is that instead of being differentiated, we all become the same, everyone with a Samsung Galaxy smartphone, everyone with latest GoPro become equal partners in 4k. Totally devalues your work when you put everything uniquely extraordinary into gadget-tech marketing equivalence.

For Sony, Panasonic, Canon, Samsung, LG, Vizio, Arri, Blackmagic...the job of selling 4k, like job of selling 3D and HD and Blu-ray before it, is their job to do, not mine. My job is to use whatever tools I can afford to their greatest effect, for the art, for the science, for the return.

To Doug Jensen, I have to agree and disagree. Agree 100% that you have to be proactive and serve as an advisor as part of the job. In your case however, you would achieve the same ends if 4k had never been invented. You're that good. :thumbsup:

Here's a bump to Doug's brilliant product page for 4k backgrounds http://instabackgrounds.com/
 
Doug, these backgrounds are brilliant. Someone FINALLY figured out that green screen backgrounds shouldn't be cheesy news sets or swirling lights. Makes me want to shoot green screens again. Nice work
 
Thank you everyone for the comments. It remains to be seen if it will be financially succesful or not, but at least it was kind of fun to put together.
 
Every time I see new posts in this thread I click on it hoping to learn about the new F55/5 capabilities...

Doug, thanks for giving my betacam a new lease on life!
 
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Every time I see new posts in this thread I click on it hoping to learn about the new F55/5 capabilities...
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Ok well then this one is for you...

HOT OFF THE PRESS, buy a Sony F5/F55 and get a FREE Sony PL lens ($4000 value).

Runs until the end of March only.

Link for more details: http://community.sony.com/sony/atta...ra-F5-F55/13157/1/CineAlta Lens Promotion.pdf



I recon that's like a $3500 discount off a camera if you were to turn around and sell the lens. Not sure who just wants one lens only.
 
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I recon that's like a $3500 discount off a camera if you were to turn around and sell the lens. Not sure who just wants one lens only.
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Of a Sony prime? Absolutely nobody.

This promotion is so off base and random, I don't even know where to start.

It's scary to think Sony *might* be even so clueless as to what we need as professional cameramen as to offer this. They might as well give us one wheel off of a dolly.
 
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Of a Sony prime? Absolutely nobody.

This promotion is so off base and random, I don't even know where to start.

It's scary to think Sony *might* be even so clueless as to what we need as professional cameramen as to offer this. They might as well give us one wheel off of a dolly.
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Hahaha!

Well, they could have had a sense of humor, called it the Ozu Special, and made the deal limited to only a 50mm?

EDIT: Or maybe a slightly wider lens, since when you crop to 4x3 you'll be losing some of the field of view?

:)

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Pretty sure I read in the fine print you can not even pick the focal length,,, what you get depends on what's available.

That stinks even more.
 
At least you get offers like that, in Europe we get trade in your old camera for next to nothing. The lens offer makes sense to me, I have read that the new Sony Primes are really good, they are rumoured to be made by Zeiss or Cooke, or some other quality lens manufacturer. I guess once you get one lens for free, you may buy the others. Are you really going to turn a free lens down?
 
C'mon at least you should be able to pick the lens.

I would pick 35mm, hm or maybe 50mm.


(By the way I updated link to proper promo ad)
 
$3500 isn't bad for a bright 18-35mm and would definitely get a lot of use and tough to get off the camera.

For me I've been toying myself with the idea of the RED 17-50mm v2 but it is definitely more expensive.
 
It's nearly $5000 USD for the 18-35mm here in the U.K, £3000 including VAT, http://www.cinegearpro.com/g-l-optics-18-35-f1-8-wide-angle-lens-pl-version-450.html

Still a steal for a lens that will get much use. I don't mind spending money on lenses, as they will last a lifetime.

RED 18-50mm is nice, I would use one any day, but are they manufactured anymore? All I can find is a lens cap, or a 18-85mm which is temporary unavailable on the RED store.
 
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