New Canon Digital Rebel 1080 24/30p

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roxics

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Does anyone know the timeframe in which Canon releases new digital rebels? What is the likelihood that next years rebel will shoot 1080 24/30p? What is the likelihood that it will have manual controls and little to no jello effect?

Honestly at this point I can't really afford a 7D. I could save my pennies but I have other things to pay for. However this coming spring I could use a new DSLR for photography and hopefully indie film. I'm sort of hoping and wishing the new rebel can take care of all of this for me at a price point under $900.

Am I out of my mind to believe the rebel will be able to do these things by early next year?
 
with the upcoming release of the red cameras, i would say it's not going to happen. Especially not at that price point, for at least the next year.
 
I'm not sure I understand your perspective. Wouldn't the release of the Red cameras be MORE motivation for Canon to release a $900 Rebel with 1080 24/30p to try and undercut Red sales?
 
roxics said:
I'm not sure I understand your perspective. Wouldn't the release of the Red cameras be MORE motivation for Canon to release a $900 Rebel with 1080 24/30p to try and undercut Red sales?
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I don't think the release of a $900 rebel would have an effect upon the potential Red buyers. They would target two different markets.
 
canon's going to wait for the 7D sales to die down before releasing anything cheaper. They'd be stupid to release a 900$ rebel with similar video capabilities to the 7D. In retrospect, it makes a lot of sense why canon made the tl1 have such weak video capabilities...
 
yommytacoe said:
canon's going to wait for the 7D sales to die down before releasing anything cheaper. They'd be stupid to release a 900$ rebel with similar video capabilities to the 7D. In retrospect, it makes a lot of sense why canon made the tl1 have such weak video capabilities...
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Also why Canon waited for 7D sales to boom before releasing the MkII 24p. Business.
 
But that logic sort of implies that canon feels that video is the strong selling point that differentiates each of their DSLR's. I'm kind of inclined not to believe that. I mean these are primarily stills cameras to begin with. So there are other factors like the still capabilities and the build quality. Would adding 1080 24/30p video to the rebel really cripple the sales of the 7D and 5D? I mean does the 7D's video ability really cripple the sales of the 1D mkIV?
 
roxics, I feel the same about it. Look at Nikon, they could work on a great video mode as they wouldn't cannibalize any video department, but they try not to even mention that there is video mode when promoting the D3s - it's aimed to be a professional stills camera for professional photography and not some video toy, and that's where they want to position it.
I think the same goes for 1Dmk4.

Rumors were talking about a successor of the 1000D (1500D) by the end of the year, a very cheap entry level DSLR and even if that's not true, I'd bet that the next entry level Canon will provide a nice 1080p video mode.

I don't believe it would really cripple the sales of 7D and there's no way it would cripple the sales of 1Dmk4.
Like you said, they can't promote video as their main selling point for their upper line cams, if they did they'd probably lose credibility on the pro stills camera market and with that big parts of it to Nikon and others.
 
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a part of me would love a cheaper 24p dslr option (which by the way, you should look at Pentax K-x which has a 24p and is $650 including the lens) but at the same time it is just getting so close for everyone to be a moviemaker nowdays it kinda sucks! obviously, this is why importance still rests on story because we are getting closer and closer to anyone being able to make stuff look "good"
 
I don't think it sucks. I keep being surprised every day about what crap people are creating with even the best tools in their hands. If you are good, you don't even need the best tools. If you're not, it doesn't really matter anyway what equipment you're using.

I consider (cheap) video DSLRs as a chance for all creative people without budget. I rather want them to succeed than some uninspired production companies.
 
I agree, I don't think it sucks either. There are way too many people out there that focus way too much on the camera. The reality is a production is so much more then the camera. People have to actually get out there and do it where so many just talk about doing it.

It's not the availability of (or lack thereof) cameras that stop people from making movies, it's the work involved.
 
When the Nikon F SLR first appeared did it make everybody a great photographer? And how many SLRs have been sold since then. A billion. There are so many kick-ass HD cameras out there already, but how many films shot have a story or even a concept. If you have a good story to tell, the new camera gear can make happen. It's a great time for people with more ideas than cash.
 
The rebels are very crippled in terms of ISO and Aperture choices. My REBEL T1i went' from 2.8 to 5.6 aperture, and 100 200 400 800 ISO. VERY limiting.


Also The 7d is an AMAZING still camera, so much so that that I wouldn't recommend a cheaper Rebel if you had any interest in photography.
 
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