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New Beachtek XLR Adapters Coming - Disables AGC
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Ben_B
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Yes but the Zoom manages to do all that and be a recorder and have built in mics for the same price...all without the noise problem.
Yeah they're a bigger company, and are manufacturing more units and reaching a larger audience...but so what? They're giving us better hardware for the same price...so lets go with them. Sorry beachtek.
Martin Koch
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As far as I understand it the 18 to 20 kHz tone is only audible to your dog and to keep him sane a simple low pass filter with a cutoff frequency of 16-17 kHz will be sufficient.
ullanta
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So? The zoom is a different device with a different purpose. I don't see the relation...? In any case, you're backpedaling... your complaint was that Beachtek was ripping people off by selling something comparable to its $99 units for $3000... and that's clearly not the case.
slinks
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well whatever the case....
the beachtek to me doesn't seem to completely stop AGC.
in the video larrys posted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAUd-j8vc8c
you'll notice AGC is still slightly present even with the beachtek AGC mode "off".
when he goes silent you hear the backround noise slightly rise along with that annoying tone.
Beachtek makes great products and some people love this product but thats one of the reasons I went to the zoom. Also I like messing around with music and the multi-track recording on the zoom is fun. The ability to bounce tracks on it is pretty nice.
the beachtek to me doesn't seem to completely stop AGC.
in the video larrys posted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAUd-j8vc8c
you'll notice AGC is still slightly present even with the beachtek AGC mode "off".
when he goes silent you hear the backround noise slightly rise along with that annoying tone.
Beachtek makes great products and some people love this product but thats one of the reasons I went to the zoom. Also I like messing around with music and the multi-track recording on the zoom is fun. The ability to bounce tracks on it is pretty nice.
Ben_B
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The Zoom is a different device that can be used for nearly exactly the same purpose...getting your audio on your SLR to not sound like crap, albeit in a different way (dual system.) But it has just as much tech in it and then some!
As for my other statements:
I pointed out that the things have more technology in them. My point was that if they managed to charge quite a reasonable price for XLR interfaces for cameras in the past (with fewer features) and still presumably managed to make a profit despite the very limited niche they were appealing to, then why can't they price their other products competitively (their 5D XLR interface) compared to audio recorders like the zoom (the answer of probably being that they are a much smaller company and going after a niche) that have all of the features of their interface, plus recording. Now I seemed to answer my own question there, but my point is that if the company managed to last this long making niche products for things like the GL2 then they should probably be aware of things like the zoom and be actively trying to bring their existing line's prices down...which was what I mentioned in my first post in the thread.
I then went on to say that, regardless of how much it costs to make, the beachtek adapter is probably not (in my opinion) competitive at its current price point...and that sucks for beachtek, but it's the truth. I wish them luck.
As for my other statements:
I pointed out that the things have more technology in them. My point was that if they managed to charge quite a reasonable price for XLR interfaces for cameras in the past (with fewer features) and still presumably managed to make a profit despite the very limited niche they were appealing to, then why can't they price their other products competitively (their 5D XLR interface) compared to audio recorders like the zoom (the answer of probably being that they are a much smaller company and going after a niche) that have all of the features of their interface, plus recording. Now I seemed to answer my own question there, but my point is that if the company managed to last this long making niche products for things like the GL2 then they should probably be aware of things like the zoom and be actively trying to bring their existing line's prices down...which was what I mentioned in my first post in the thread.
I then went on to say that, regardless of how much it costs to make, the beachtek adapter is probably not (in my opinion) competitive at its current price point...and that sucks for beachtek, but it's the truth. I wish them luck.