New atomos Shinobi video monitor
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Jim Feeley
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Just so we/I am clear, the Atomos site, they list the HDMI version of the Ninja V for USD$695. Same at some online sellers.
https://www.atomos.com/ninjav
With the SDI module, looks like the Ninja V price goes to $850.
Or am I misunderstanding your post and you were talking about the price of the Shinobi monitor?
Yes I was meaning the Shinobi monitor has two version a HDMI version at $399 and the SDI for $499. My comparison was for the Ninja V standard which is HDMI of course. So I guess I should have said $300 not $200. Still represents a considerable advantage I think is viewing and recording 60P. Shinobi is limited to 30P max in 4K/UHD.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
I have a Ninja Blade and love it, but the Ninja V presents the same issue for me though, 1,000 nits isn't going to cut it for most of my outdoor shoots, not really bright enough. I live in Southern California where it's always sunny and bright.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
I shoot a lot of 4K 60p too since my subjects for this film are extreme athletes who are always zipping around in front of our cameras. Unfortunately the Atomos products aren't going to work for me, which is a shame as I really like their stuff. Wish they had made the Ninja V and Shinobis at least 1500 nits. Both of our cameras shoot 4K 60p fine internally, so although Prores would be a nice option, not really needed.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
I ordered the cheapo Portkeys LH5HDR monitor. It was only $289.00 and is 1500 nits. I'll report back my impressions when it arrives and I can see what it does under our nuclear sunlight here ;-) Still will get either the BM5 or BM7 for the C200 in the near future.
Did you buy battery plate too? It is not included, at least in Europe.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
It comes with that and more
Package List:
1×LH5 HDR Touch Screen Monitor
1×Sony NP-F Battery Plate
1×Screen Cleaning Wipe
2×LH5 HDR Screen Protector
1×USB Drive
Jim Arthurs
Well-known member
For what it's worth I used the 2200 nit FeelWorld FW279 7" recently on an outside in-the-snow gig and it did the job. Bright enough in noon sun without a hood. Best colors, best features? Doesn't matter, I just want to see to focus when I'm outside, and focus you can.
There's an HDMI only and a model for more with SDI as well.
Good run time at full brightness with the Sony NP-F batteries, very, very long run time at "in-door" brightness.
There's an HDMI only and a model for more with SDI as well.
Good run time at full brightness with the Sony NP-F batteries, very, very long run time at "in-door" brightness.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Good feedback Jim, I already ordered the Portkeys 1500 nit LH5HDR and am waiting to also pick up the BM5 when it hits but the Feelworlds look interesting too. Where the hell do the Chinese come up with these names? Portkeys from Harry Potter but Feelworld?
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Does your monitor have any LUT support? Looking at the 7" SDI model and I can't find any reference to LUT support anywhere?
Jim Arthurs
Well-known member
No, no LUT support.
This upcoming Swit model might be better as it's even brighter and has LUT support for a little more money...
https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/04/11/swit-t7-g7-3000nit-7-monitors/
This upcoming Swit model might be better as it's even brighter and has LUT support for a little more money...
https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/04/11/swit-t7-g7-3000nit-7-monitors/
I would wait little bit for Swit, at least for some first hands reviews. I have bought their previous version. I believe it was announced at the end of 2018. I preordered it right away and it came 2 days before NAB 2019 where they announced those new monitors. Cheaper, more features, better form factor. My 'old' model is extremely sh*tty and Swit won't replace my unit. I can't use LUTs, HDR and fan noise is same as Boeing 747 during take off. If you think Inferno is loud, you haven't heard this.
Be careful with them.
Jim Feeley
Veteran
What a complete bummer, KrocanX. Thanks for sharing your story.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
I won't buy any monitor or light that has loud fan noise, that's a no go for me, I'm very audio oriented.
Jim Feeley
Veteran
This doesn't fit Dan's needs I think, but for the next 12 hours, B&H has a "DealZone" deal on the SmallHD FOCUS SDI Monitor Kit. There are three bundles of accessories. IPS version, starting at $379 with cables, tilt arm, etc.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/dealZone.jsp
Perhaps your local dealer can match the price?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/dealZone.jsp
Perhaps your local dealer can match the price?
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Not mention killer deals on Sandisk Extreme Pro SD cards, only $67.00 for 256GB cards!
Run&Gun
Veteran
I have really disliked smallHD's Page OS operating system since it came out(can't overstate that enough), but I just bought a 5.5" Focus OLED SDI about a month or so ago, and with a touchscreen monitor, it finally makes sense. And the touch/push/pinch to zoom-in on the screen is actually very cool and intuitive(like our smartphones). I give them a big thumbs up. And the swivel mount is awesome. SO much better than a Noga arm.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Received the Portkeys LH5 HDR monitor today, the cheap 5" LCD model with only HDMI in.
The good
Menus aren't too bad. No Atomos easy but usable
Small, light, good for gimbal
Very efficient on battery, has a voltmeter on screen
1500 nits totally usable in direct daylight
The LUT implementation is easy and straightforward
Really cheap, $289.00
The Bad
Really fragile feeling, if you dropped it, it would be history
Has a fan, didn't know that but on medium and low it can't be heard. But pretty loud on high
Worst of all, this screen is extraordinarly soft, like it almost looks like SD soft? I tried adjusting output from 1080 from the camera to UHD but it doesn't look too different. Wondering if I could have a default set wrong or ? Hard to believe in 2019 that an HD screen could look this soft.
Ordered the Atomos Shinobi SDI today, going to see if I can live with 1,000 nits and possibly use the hood on my gimbal. One of these monitors will be returned.
Life lesson. Forget trying to buy a monitor off of specs alone, you HAVE to actually shoot with a camera monitor to see if it will work for you. Is it bright enough? Sharp enough? Do the features make sense as well as the menus?
The good
Menus aren't too bad. No Atomos easy but usable
Small, light, good for gimbal
Very efficient on battery, has a voltmeter on screen
1500 nits totally usable in direct daylight
The LUT implementation is easy and straightforward
Really cheap, $289.00
The Bad
Really fragile feeling, if you dropped it, it would be history
Has a fan, didn't know that but on medium and low it can't be heard. But pretty loud on high
Worst of all, this screen is extraordinarly soft, like it almost looks like SD soft? I tried adjusting output from 1080 from the camera to UHD but it doesn't look too different. Wondering if I could have a default set wrong or ? Hard to believe in 2019 that an HD screen could look this soft.
Ordered the Atomos Shinobi SDI today, going to see if I can live with 1,000 nits and possibly use the hood on my gimbal. One of these monitors will be returned.
Life lesson. Forget trying to buy a monitor off of specs alone, you HAVE to actually shoot with a camera monitor to see if it will work for you. Is it bright enough? Sharp enough? Do the features make sense as well as the menus?
Jim Feeley
Veteran
Bummer. For fragility, there's always a (weight-adding) cage from SmallRig or someone, if there's one that fit (SmallRig, for example, makes cages for major brands and also for FeelWorld...). https://www.smallrig.com/cages/monitor-cage.html
As for the softness, I wonder if they're overdriving the panel to get all those nits and that's causing some sort of blooming that blows out sharpness?
Thanks for taking the hit for all of us. We each owe you a coffee, beer, or lunch...