Need Ultra "real" Guns?

Nice. Though I think Airsoft would still be the better (and cheaper) way to go. Unless you are talking an XCU on the gun.
 
I'd just buy the real thing, and then turn around and sell it used for 90-95% of what you bought it for. Unless damaged, firearms really hold their value well.
 
I still say that buying spring loaded airsoft guns and spiffing them up is cheaper. And its legal in more countried :-P.

And Mike is right, firearms hold their value EXTREMELY well. Especially if they've never been fired.
 
Going through the time, trouble, and expense - not to mention the safety issues - of obtaining a real firearm to use on-set, seems pretty silly when an airsoft will be cheaper, faster to get, and far safer to use.

If you want to be in the arms business (which I was), be in the arms business.

If you want to be in the entertainment business (which I am), be in the entertainment business.
 
Mike McNeese said:
I'd just buy the real thing, and then turn around and sell it used for 90-95% of what you bought it for. Unless damaged, firearms really hold their value well.
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I just wrapped a feature where we used real guns extensively. Everything from pistols to shotguns to full auto assault rifles. Nothing beats real for realism. As far as buying your own, you won't be able to purchase half the guns we used because they are highly illegal....full auto has been illegal for like 70+ years in this country.

Another consideration is that they do wear....movie guns have worn out actions on brand new barrels!!!

Besides, they are modified. A revolver and shotgun are the only weapons that do not have internal barrel mounted chokes. Anything else like pistols or rifles contain small chokes in the barrel to prevent wadding from escaping and also to trap gas to cycle the actions properly.

can you use blanks in a real gun? Sure, but anything less than full flash loads will heighten the possibility of a jam, and the potential for stuff coming out the barrel and hitting an actor is high.

Just on my shoot alone, one of the actors shot Sizemore in the chest with three rounds of quarter loads. He didn't cheat the angle as he was instructed to, and he fired 3 into Tom's chest from like 8 feet away. Tom had a huge bruise on his chest after that. The wadding was what did it.
 
Full-auto (Class III weapons) are perfectly legal to own and deal - *if* you have the proper permits.

Blanks will not reliably cycle the action of a semi- or fully-automatic weapon, without a barrel restrictor.

Re: inadvertently causing injury or death with 'safe' blank-firing weapons:

Brandon Lee

Jon-Erik Hexum
 
Sad Max said:
Full-auto (Class III weapons) are perfectly legal to own and deal - *if* you have the proper permits.
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Perfectly legal to own for a tiny fraction of the poulation - they are defacto illegal. As a former class 7 FFL (manufacturer of non-destructive devices), I went through hell to get that license - the FBI and ATF even visited my home and sat me down for random interviews - I can only imagine what a license to deal in full auto entails.

My gun handler has one as well as Mike Gibbons who owns Gibbons Ltd, where we rented.
 
taormina said:
I can only imagine what a license to deal in full auto entails.
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Very much the same sort of thing, I gather.

You essentially waive your protections against search-and-siezure and grant ATF permission to inspect you, sans warrant, at their discretion.
 
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