Need help! What .mov settings are the best

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bryster

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Ok ! I would like to post some of my work for you all critique.
Every time I piece I try to render out as web .mov it turns out like Shitz. If not it is usually very large in size.
I look at most all of yours and it looks and sounds great!
I use Vegas 4.0. What settings to you all use to get the results you do.
I thought I knew what I was doing. Apparently not!
HELP!
Thanks you all for any input.
 
Re: Need help! What .mov settings are the best

YOu might try rendering out to a wmv9. I have had great success with that.
 
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I second Bryster's question as I've encountered the exact same problems. WMV9 is great and works just fine, but not everyone has the player yet, and say I *also* want or need to output to QT... which are the best settings ?
 
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if you watched a QT sample that looks good, go to movie > get movie properties and find almost all what you need to know about the encoding.
i find mpeg4 to be a good one. sorenson makes the best mpeg4 encoder.
your bitrate shouldn't be less than half, or more than two times the height x width x fps / 48000
hope that helps
 
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You guys rock! ;D
Thank you so much... Looks like it is the data bit rate, by the size of the out put video, makes a big difference on how the quality and size comes out. I new audio can cause large files sizes. Now I know what to experiement with. Think I can handle it.
When I get my web sight up.. I will post some of my stuff.
Thanks again! ;)
 
Re: Need help! What .mov settings are the best

[quote author=bryster link=board=Events;num=1080447992;start=0#4 date=03/28/04 at 12:44:16]You guys rock! ;D
Thank you so much... Looks like it is the data bit rate, by the size of the out put video, makes a big difference on how the quality and size comes out. I new audio can cause large files sizes. Now I know what to experiement with. Think I can handle it.
When I get my web sight up.. I will post some of my stuff.
Thanks again! ;)[/quote]

Another tidbit... The Sorenson "Pro" (Squeeze) application uses a 2-pass encoder and will make QT files MUCH smaller at very good quality. The standard MPEG4/Sorenson "Basic" encoder requires higher bitrates/sizes to produce decent quality.

Andrew
Crystal Clear Media
 
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Alright

I will be getting some footage up pretty soon as well. I am going to UPGRADE to QT PRO...

Are you saying that Sorenson is another Application Ill most likely need?

IS it best to also have WP9?
 
Re: Need help! What .mov settings are the best

John, you've got what you need in Vegas. You can output to MPEG-4 using Sorensen 3 with Vegas.

You can also output to WM9.
 
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[quote author=John Hudson link=board=Events;num=1080447992;start=0#7 date=03/29/04 at 19:02:06]Alright

I will be getting some footage up pretty soon as well.  I am going to UPGRADE to QT PRO...

Are you saying that Sorenson is another Application Ill most likely need?

IS it best to also have WP9? [/quote]

I prefer to have both myself.  Actually, up until now I have typically used Window Media files exclusively due to their good quality, good size and free distribution with the latest OS's.  But, the unfortunate thing for me is that I am finding myself using my MAC more and more...And there is not a WM9 encoder for MAC (although there is a player...Hmmm?). Apple is adding the QT install to the PC as part of their iTunes application. Sneaky. :)

Regardless, Yes Sorenson Squeeze is an additional application (not cheap).  It is what you see a lot of Hollywood movie trailers encoded with.  There is a PC and MAC version.  The PC version actually supports more formats (including WM9).

Hope this helps!

Andrew
Crystal Clear Media
 
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[quote author=Jubal28 link=board=Events;num=1080447992;start=0#8 date=03/29/04 at 19:04:36]John, you've got what you need in Vegas.  You can output to MPEG-4 using Sorensen 3 with Vegas.

You can also output to WM9.[/quote]

Correct. But you do not have the PRO encoder version of Sorenson 3.

For details: http://www.sorenson.com/

Andrew
Crystal Clear Media
 
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Nope. Just wanted to make sure John knew that he already has a version of Sorenson (not to mention WM9), though! 8)
 
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Very true! No need to spend the cash, unless necessary or unhappy with the results. Good point.

Andrew
Crystal Clear Media
 
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Aggghhhhh!

Im all confused now! My wife is laughing at me!

Okay, let me get this straight. I have Vegas 4.0. What does this mean? Is the Sorenson 3 Pro absolutley needed? Or is for insanely quick downloading times for the viewers?

Also,

I plan on getting QT Pro. I need this, right?

Aggghhh!
 
Re: Need help! What .mov settings are the best

No. You have the Sorensen 3 codec already. The Pro codec will let you have smaller file sizes, but you don't *need* that for high-quality QTs. They'll just be a larger file size.

I don't have QT Pro; have never needed it. I usually output to WM9, though.
 
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:D

Thanks Jubal!

So I dont need it. Although if I want it it will allow me to compress large files.

Is it in my bene to get QT PRO or is that something I don't need either? I admit, I'm partial to QT.

Im being redundant but you know how I get with the tech stuff! I just want to direct!
 
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I don't know if QT Pro actually adds anything above what Vegas gives you. But for $30, it can't hurt.
 
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BTW, I hear ya on the just wanting to direct. I want to learn as much as I can, but being the world's greatest cinematographer isn't on my list of priorities . . . :P
 
Re: Need help! What .mov settings are the best

:D I know that I need to learn as much of the technical details as possible while I can.  I also know that this is nothing but a bene for me in making my own 'shorts/videos/specs/movies'.

Furthermore, I know that the more I learn in the realm of DP the better I will be able to communicate 'to a DP' if I ever reach my goals.

Sigh....
 
Re: Need help! What .mov settings are the best

I just wanna make the pictures in my head appear on my screen. 8)

Kinda what we all want, I guess!
 
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