Need help in deciding which computer to purchase for editing?

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Hello, new here, I have question:

Right now, I'm searching to buy a new computer that will allow me to even edit the files of my DSLR. To make a long story short, I will not be using editing techniques such as green screen, stimulated effects, CG, or really anything like that (and I do not see myself ever getting into that side of editing; by the time I would need it for any of my much-later-on films, I would have to have a much bigger budget for the entire films anyway, so when that time comes, I'd just get a special effects team), I'll only be editing in terms of splicing, stitching, adding audio, fairly advanced slow-mo, exporting to the pinpoint-correct formats, and lastly and most importantly, some pretty advanced color and exposure correction (more than say, Windows Photo Editor offers, but I'm probably not going to be working with mathematical formulas, ya know!)

It's just that for a few more years, I am only editing and filming projects that are supposed to look very professional and very well corrected, yet just have absolutely no special effects (I'm very inspired by 70's horror and indie genres and such, I actually love sitting down and thinking of storyline elements and technical aspects that "work around" not having CG or greenscreen, I think it gives a much more authentic film for a low budget filmmaker...) or have such on-purpose spoof effects that I could do it with whatever free program I could download online. So basically, if I opt for a new computer, I'd like to know if there's any computers that actually have great color correction-based software for video editing that, in the end, goes a well beyond the normal "Windows Movie Maker".

However, some problems are that 1. I'd at least need the program to save the finished edit file in a format that I guess is "better" than what I would need to save the file as if this film were going to be shown on official theater projectors, and then on DVD and potentially Blu-Ray. OR 2. The program would have to save all my changes as a template, where I could say, load that template and original native files into someone else's computer with a much better editing program (I could at least afford to do that for a day!) and export it that way, if that's even possible. Oh, and I'd definatly like a program that does batch editing, batch exporting, ect ect. Just the needed stuff, but not way beyond.

So what would you guys recommend? Do Apple computers come with software like this (and do those computers handle the files well?) If not, which general computer is best to go with, and which software should I be looking for (I don't want anything TOO complex, such as something you'd use to edit RED RAW files - I like DSLR's for a reason! - and I wouldn't mind it to be free...)? Which technical specs on a computer should I be looking for? And any other advice beyond that is also appreciated!
 
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You're not looking for a computer. You're looking for software, once you decide on that, you can look at what computer to buy for running that software. From the post, I see you're looking for ultra-cheap or even free software. The options here would be Apple's iMovie or Sony Vegas (careful: not all versions allow editing of 24p footage). But if your budget allows for a powerful computer, you may be better off spending a bit more on software and buying cheaper hardware. FCPX is the cheapest semi-serious option. Premiere Elements can also be an interesting option (its biggest flaw is that it doesn't accept most Premiere Pro plugins, like the ones I use for color grading). What's your budget for the software+hardware combined?
 
Above $1,000, but below $2,000, for everything. The main features I need are:

1. Being able to have a bit of extensive options for color correcting (pretty much what's needed to turn say CineStyle into something that pops without sacrificing much of the low-contrast range, if that's possible). Also I think things like individually lowering the white level or heightening the black level will be something I use for a minimal effect, and I'd also like it if the software was very intelligent on helping me achieve the most balanced white balance across the project, stuff like that.

2. Having a program that, in some way or the other, allows me to save my progress as a "project" where the program will load each and every change as long as the files don't change location, allowing me to use the same "project" to export to different formats.

3. Of coarse, having software that allows for easy batch editing, and having hardware that can handle all those files, if there is no other alternative.

4. Editing the "sonic production" of sound files in-software probably isn't as big of a deal for me, as free and cheap software exists for making your audio sound great, but of coarse, your video editing software needs extensive cutting software to match the audio up to your visual cuts perfectly.

5. I probably would indeed like to have a software that has plugins for things like say, adding a slight layer of noise to balance different shots, or whatnot. Small, but realistic-looking stuff like that. Something where you can go online and get endless options for whatever you may need. However, this may not be a *must*, as if I do most of the general sitching and editing first, I may be able to as always, hire another editor for a day and let them use their own computer for the last needed effects.

6. Slo-mo is a big deal to me, I won't be using it all the time, but all my projects have instances of where I want really realistic, and sometimes a bit complex, slo-mo. I absolutey can't have any of that watery, shadow slo-mo that some people try to get out of DSLR's (in any case of slow-mo I do, I'll either be using a very, very good plugin for my DSLR footage, or I'll be using 720 60P, or I may even resort to renting a camera with much higher frame rates for a day, so I'll need a computer able to handle maybe much larger files...)

7. Also, I would very, very much prefer if it were a laptop, seeing as I do travel a bunch for the shoots and I like to edit when I'm traveling.

8. I guess most of all, I need a software that has intelligent stitching, nothings probably more important than at least being able to stitch the video cuts together in a way that is precise and looks professional!

Guess that's about it...

Overall, I really am a Windows guy, and I'm not at all a fan of any other formats but Windows (and I even hate some Windows computers because the mouse, keyboard, or layout isn't traditional as I'd like) but the biggest deal here is working in my budget and yet having all the features I really need.
 
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So the one thing about it is without a doubt, I have to buy a new computer - mines just way too slow, way too filled up, and is breaking apart as it is (the screen half of the time doesn't work) so I'd spend more money souping it up than just buying a new one. On top of that, I have no current editing software that I'm familiar with or use, I just know what I need to learn to use for my styles of editing and production.

Some other things I know in addition to the post above is that I'm unsure at the moment if I'll only be using my DSLR files or if I'll eventually, at least for an experiment, use Panasonic files or files from high-frame-rate cameras. I would indeed like an editing program and computer that could possibly handle those files too. I'm not really looking for a computer where everything depends on a fine thin line. I'd hope my computer was fast enough to play 2K files, 1080P files, edit those, and maybe even play/edit a 4K file. I don't want a crappy computer, but then again, I am in the $1,000 range, so please anyone, recommend what you generally think I should go with, and what editing program would cover the needs I have above.

Like, should I make things easy on myself and just go with an Apple Laptop with some version of Final Cut Pro? I just have no clue.
 
With that budget, I think you're much better off spending $1000 on hardware and $1000 on software, than spending it all on hardware and using ultra-cheap or free software. I would either go for an Apple MBP and FCPX (if you're fine with it), or a $1000 windows laptop or tower+monitor, and Adobe Premiere CS6 (probably on the pay-per-month plan), plus some Magic Bullet plugins (I use Colorista Free, Mojo, and Quick Looks, which serves me well and I think does everything you're talking about, but is actually somewhat limited in terms of control; if you can get Colorista II, and have the skills to make use of it, then that's an absolutely awesome piece of software). BTW: handling RAW footage is hard on the hardware, but handling H.264 is not far behind; working with footage from the pro cameras is much easier on the hardware.
 
With that budget, I think you're much better off spending $1000 on hardware and $1000 on software

I agree with that approach. If you go the Adobe route, I'd make sure I'd get the PC with a graphics card that the Mercury engine works with. The supported cards are listed on Adobe's site and some cards (with similar architecture) work with a small hack. If you google "mercury playback cards" you'll find a lot of information.
 
As others have said. Pick your editing software first and then spec. your computer for the software. You will get all types of suggestions on editing software. I started with Adobe 6.0 and upgraded to newer versions as they became available. I now use Edius which allows you to edit very fast and have realtime viewing on a 2nd HDTV monitor. You can read about specs. for an editing computer using CS6 here http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?284324-Looking-for-new-computer-for-CS6-Production-Premium
 
Ive had nothing but good editing sessions with my Asus G74SX laptop, it has a 17" 1080p display, and all parts are interchangeable when they become outdated. The ASUS rog series laptops are certainly something to look into!
 
I have 3 extra licenses of Adobe CS6 Production Premium that I no longer need. I am disabled now and shut down my studio.

I could sell you a full, retail copy of CS6 Production Premium for $1,000, which is basically my cost. I upgraded my CS2 to CS5.5 (purchased from Adorama - have receipt) , then CS6 (from the Adobe store.) The CS6 has never been installed.

I would officially request that Adobe transfer the license to you via a help desk request. It is supposed to take a couple of weeks. That is just FYI; I won't say any more if you aren't interested.


As far as a computer: You can buy a pretty decent Dell or similar i7 box in the $500 range (for a base unit.) Upgrade or add ypourself (more likely) to put in a Nvidia GTX 570, 560, or 550 video card. Add RAM to 16GB or 32GB. Bigger power supply, two, 2GB Seagate Barracuda drives in RAID 0 - maybe - maybe an SSD as a scratch drive.

If you need to squeeze a monitor into the $1,000 you might have to skip the SSD at start, maybe no power supply upgrade needed with a GTX 550 Ti, etc.

But you should be able to do that basic box for $1,000.

Good luck,
Michael
 
Sorry for whatever happened, Unadog... And @BBFilm: Unadog's proposal is very attractive, and it seems to be right within your budget...
 
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