GH4 Natural color profile advice?

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Ben01

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Hi all,

I've used cinelike D on the GH4 for a while now and have decided that I really don't like it anymore. In particular I think skin tones look terrible and the footage generally has a muddy type look to it. I've used fairly common settings of 0, -5 -5 -5 0 and no other adjustments to master pedestal, luminance or highlights/shadows.

I'm wondering if anyone has much experience shooting in the natural profile and their recommended settings?? I always like to grade footage with the occasional use of LUTS to create a "look" so that might affect what settings I use. There isn't a hell of a lot of info out there (that I can find anyway) with regard to the natural settings and grading.

I'm using native glass (12-35 f2.8) and only really shoot outdoors - run and gun type stuff.

Thanks for any advice ppl 😊
 
Cine V is kinda limited in terms of DR.
Natural profile is actually great to go.
0 -5 -5 -3 0 is what I've used for greenscreen work to have good color and usage of the 8 bit codec.
 
I use Natural quite a bit. About a year or so ago I spent an ungodly amount of time chart testing each profile, and Natural is actually the most *overall* color accurate profile.

Resist the urge to slam everything to negative 5. It's goofiness. Use V-LOG or don't, but trying to "flatten" a REC709 profile is goofiness.

Bump down sharpness, contrast and saturation to taste. A mild curve is also okay (maybe 2, -2).
 
With my GH4 I found that Natural looked great SOOC, but did give up some DR. V-Log had great DR but the banding and noise sucked, as well as trying to expose and focus without an external monitor. Cine-D with the Leeming LUT was a great midpoint: good DR, easy to focus and expose, and after dropping the LUT on the color looks good, if a little plain (not stylized, just a regular ol' rec709 look). A really quick light grade can get it to whatever look I want.
 
DeeZiD said:
Cine V is kinda limited in terms of DR.
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No it's not, not with my settings, that's the whole point of them. Has as much range as Cine D, and to my eye handles highlights much better, without the muddy color and wan skin tones. Try it, you'll be surprised.
 
Batutta said:
A still from 'contrasty' Cine V, without any correction--
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Yes it looks good, but would Standard, Natural, Cine-D, or V-Log L 10-bit profiles look better ?

I am also guessing that this was shot just after sunset when the world is mostly lit by sky-light which is very flat lighting.
( I used to shoot cars on location, and we often shot before sunrise or after sunset because of how flat the light is )
 
Stock Cine V is contrasty, but that's why I modify them with the settings on the previous page. It brings it back into Cine D range of DR without the color issues. I also get nice looking highlight rolloff with these settings, and no banding. I did a lot of tests with all the profiles, and for internal recording this is what I prefer. Of course 10 bit VLOG recorded externally would be better.
 
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