My Review of the Fotga DP3000 Mattebox

Huy Vu

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I've never been a fan of using a mattebox for my shooting style. I think they're expensive,makes the rig unwieldy and adds to setup time on set. With that said I found myself in need of one after switching my camera since all my lenses are different diameter and it's not cost efficient to get different ND filters for every lens. Having used some cheap matteboxes in the past I knew that you have to spend a certain amount or else you might as well not buy one at all. So imagine my surprise when I stumble on the DP3000 Mattebox made by Fotga for only $126 including shipping! Against my better judgment I decide to give it a shot, and was pleasantly surprise. Here's my review for those who might be interested in a budget option

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The mattebox itself is made mostly of plastic while the arm, sideflags and hinges are made of metal. It's definitely not as heavy as say a Redrock which is a nice plus, but it's not the lightest thing out there either. It comes with 2 4x4 filter trays (also plastic), one of which is rotatable. The general construction is solid although the screws at the various mounting points feel a bit cheap. I worry that they would strip and be useless after extended use.

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One thing that I really like is how easy it is to do height adjustments. Simply loosen two ratchet screws and raise the mattebox up or down. Smooth and very quick.

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On the same topic, I wish they had use the same ratchet system for the swing away arm like other manufacturers do. Right now you have to loosen a screw on top of the hinge for the swing-away to work, then lock it back up. Definitely not a smooth process and the screw is definitely gonna get worn down after extended use.

There's also 2 small 15mm rods that goes on to the side that are included, although I didn't show it here and won't be using them as they get in the way of my monitor. They also include donuts of various sizes for your lenses.

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Overall I feel that for $126, it's a pretty darn good value. Fotga ships pretty quickly and it arrives at my door in just five days. If you're someone who uses a mattebox day in and day out and expects them to take a beating, I don't know if this would be the best choice for you as I don't expect these to stand up to the rigor of a long production; but then again there are many choices on the market at a much higher price range that will do the job. However if you're like me and only uses a mattebox when you need to (in my case more for filtration than for light control) then you probably aren't looking to spend $500+ on a mattebox, then this is a pretty good deal especially since it's an all inclusive package.
 
Not to hijack your thread, but it's related and I'd like to share some information in comparison.

I was afraid that it would be cheap too. I got one for free as a demo (not the same model, but quite close):
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Both yours and my mattebox, for their price, are quite good and does the job I guess. The ABS plastic is solid enough, but I would doubt for it's life length on cold winter shooting!

The filter trays were my principal worry as they were thin and plastic made:
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Yours seems quite good and sturdy compared to mine. I've done a little mod on mine and they were holding a lot better, so you might want to try the same on yours, as good filters costs even more than the MB itself, securing them might be a good idea:
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That, and I've changes the locking screw to one on each side instead (better to reach them to screw/unscrew) but I don't have that swing away arm on mine though:
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I have since, "upgraded" to a swing away model too, from ebay user Roking88 which is built like a tank (all metal except filters) but costs a bit more than yours! ;)
 
A little off topic, but after several years of messing with donuts, nun's knickers, black tape, etc... I just got several $10 rubber lens hoods. The can be squeezed up against the matte box to seal off light, and I just leave them on the lenses for the shoot day. Works very well for me.
 
That sounds like a great idea Michael! I might try that, but my only issue would be when I use my Tiffen Variable ND filter which has no threads and is alot bigger than my normal lens sizes.

Guys, are any of you able to measure and give me the outside dimensions of the Fotga filter tray and also the thickness. I am trying to source a filter tray for my unknown brand matte box.

Thank you.
 
That sounds like a great idea Michael! I might try that, but my only issue would be when I use my Tiffen Variable ND filter which has no threads and is alot bigger than my normal lens sizes..

Well, shouldn't one of the first goals of owning a matte box be dumping variable NDs (and any screw-on solutions) for 4x4's? And in the case of variables, getting "real" ND vs. just stacking polarizers (which is what the variables are, simply two stacked polas?).

You really don't want a polarizer on a closeup or anything with significant skin tones (since all the occlusion and light bounce in translucent stuff - like skin - is what gives it life and polarizing will nuke a lot of that). And polarizers can deliver wonky results for skies and large areas of color when the camera moves or setups change.

You'd never see Roger Deakins calling out "bring me two polarizers" when what he **wants** is a 2-stop reduction in exposure, y'know? (Not trying to be an elitist snobby type here, but selling a variable and getting a couple "real" NDs shouldn't be a huge outlay, and they'll last you the next ten camera upgrades you do...)

Anyway, here's a rubber hood on a rig - I just can't believe how great they work. And you can trim them down for wide lenses, etc...

That's an 85mm 1.8 Nikkor - just forward of the focus gear you can see the rubber hood, perfect seal on the MB and none of the profanity that Knickers can involve...

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Got mine today and was pleasantly surprised by how light it was. Couldn't find any concrete weight measurements everywhere. I got the M4 version (adjustable side rails and top handle), and my setup weighs 1kg + 200g for the flags. I removed the top handle, and that weighs another 250g or so.

Analogs, here's the measurements if you're still after them: http://i.imgur.com/82hwQqN.jpg
 
I don't know if it's allowed to bump up a topic from 2 years ago, but I have a little question about this matte box,

can it be used clip-on, is the hole standard 114mm and can you tighten it?
 
But they made a clip on version, ebay would be the place to look. They also sell a side only mount that will require one of their C shaped brackets.

To add to the review, I didn't like that it won't go low enough to meet the 85mm rod center to lens center standard for the 15mm LWS rods. I ended up machining a lower mount arm for mine. But lowering has a consequence that the corner of the filter holder no longer rotates past the lower mount. Haven't decided if I'm going to cut the lower mount, or space the box out past the lower.

I agree that the swing away screw lock will be trouble, I'm thinking of adding strong magnets to the swinging part, and another pair to the side tube clams. This should lock it up nicely and not stress the locking screw. Clamping those side clamps down will also increase rigidity of the mount.

But overall, a decent low priced mattebox, that isn't made in a cheap way.
 
I bought a set of cheap ND 4x4 from ebay that seem to work. I'll modify the carriers as needed when it trips me up, for the price I can deal with the oddities.
 
What brand filters do actually fit ?
Anything 4x4 (100mm x 100mm) should fit in those.
I'm using Cavision ND Glass filters (4mm thick) and it works perfectly with the similar filter holders than the one picture in the first post.
 
I've read somewhere that Fotga only accepts 3mm thick filter and wouldn't want to find this out the hard way.
 
A rough measurement on mine and it looks like 3mm thick is the maximum, but I don't have any 4mm filters to check so not entirely certain. If it was a metal holder, 4mm would be easy to fit if the holder was designed right.
 
I'm running into a problem with my dp3000.. none of the polarizing filters fit. Too thick! FOTGA has a 2mm thickness limit, but filters are 5mm thick.
 
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