My Mini 2K is here!

We can edit many channels of either on a fast PC. For RAW channels you will have the greatest flexibility by editing CineForm RAW.
 
BTW, Chris,

If you're going to shoot at +12db, you should re-set your black calibration for best results . . . I'm looking at your images and they are noisier than they need to be since it does not appear as though you reset your black calibration after setting +12db gain.

Also resetting the black calibration will remove any hot pixels that appear at the +12db setting.
 
David--

As a windows user (a land where generally speaking the more software you install, the worse your computer performs), I gotta say that installing and uninstalling an unnecessary piece of software, only to use one component in it, really stinks.

Plans to modify the installer to allow people just to choose to install the one little piece they need?
 
Yes we plan to do that, however Connect HD is a very small application and it will not slow down your PC -- it only installs the decoder, encoder, and conversion DShow components for HDLink, nothing else.
 
Mars,

That looks awesome - the poinsettia is insane looking. Weird though, the WMV crashes at 41 seconds every time on my P4 laptop.

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Thanks! This one runs smooth on my system, but it has been a real issue trying to compress something that did the original justice, but wasn't 6 GB. I wonder why that is?
 
Thanks Mars--

Runs smooth here... seems like about the right level of compression for showing here.

Very interesting stuff to see. Keep 'em coming.

-Kevin
 
Hey Chris,

Are you using WM9-HD? For some reason I can't get it to play back on my Mac even though I have the flip-factory plug-in for QT installed (giving me the missing codec error) . . . i.e., all the WMV's on our website playback nicely in QT on the Mac . . . maybe with the file-size issue you might not be using the right codec?
 
Downloaded it on a PC (well, MacPro running bootcamp) . . . played back fine . . . so kinda weird it wouldn't playback on my Mac with the telestream plug-in.

I really like the look of the footage . . . It's got some nice, rich colors too, like a nice DSLR shot :)

If you need any more help making .look files, please post away, I'm here to help :)
 
Congratulations Mark :)
The footage is really cool! Can you make some 2K shooting? I'm curios about how it's moving and how big it is. Anyway this one minute movie seems to be a lot shorter than I expected: just 1G/hour?!!! What do you say about that Jason? Wasn't normal to be about 40 G/hour?
 
Normal CineForm RAW is around 40GB/hr . . . the 17MB clip you downloaded was only WMV compressed . . . 1GB/hr would be 1/10th the data-rate of HDV!

We are by no means that compressed. You're not looking at CineForm RAW, but a highly compressed web-movie (which still looks pretty good).
 
Jason Rodriguez said:
Hey Chris,

Are you using WM9-HD? . . . maybe with the file-size issue you might not be using the right codec?
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Jason, here is how I encode the video from Premiere:

File>Export>Adobe Media Encoder

The settings:

WMV
Entire Sequence
Preset: Custom
1280x960
FPS= Same as Source

Video noise reduction= OFF
Video Codec = Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile
Interlacing = NO
Number of encoding passes = ONE
Bit Rate Mode = Constant
Pixel Aspect Ratio = Square

Max Bit Rate = 2,480.90
Image Quality = 100

Keyframe Interval = 5 seconds

Buffer = Default
Audiences = Compressed.

Do you have any advice on a different way to do this, or changes in the settings? I know you can instead choose:

File>Export>Movie, and then change the settings from there, which seem to be different options. Thanks.
 
steff said:
Congratulations Mark :)
The footage is really cool! Can you make some 2K shooting? I'm curios about how it's moving and how big it is. Anyway this one minute movie seems to be a lot shorter than I expected: just 1G/hour?!!! What do you say about that Jason? Wasn't normal to be about 40 G/hour?
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Thanks, steff. I was going to go out and grab some shots of jet planes coming in for a landing today (and cut it with other various outdoor shots: city view from a mountain, ocean, parks etc..) but it is raining and grey outside. Tomorrow is supposed to be better, so hopefully I'll head out with a friend and we'll do that Thursday.

I'll post back when I upload more stuff. Oh, I have a 3 MB file of fast-mo footage. Nothing special, but if people want to see it I can post it.
 
Now, I come home Jason :) I have the trial version of the Prospect installed and I tought that I played the cineform... without looking at properties... so, the results are better... if this is the compressed version I'm asking myself how is the original or RAW DNG... can you post one these Mark? Than you.
 
Very nice footage. Every time I see a clip from this camera, I just want more.

I want one so badly!!!

Jason, will you guys accept some kind of indentured servitude to pay off a camera? :)
 
To be honest, Stef, I don't know how to grab a RAW image from Premiere. If I choose "export frame" it exports a .bmp with the .look applied. If I figure it out, I will post it.
 
Hi Chris,

Right at this moment, to export a RAW frame, use After Effects . . . just import the AVI and export a DPX file. AE right now doesn't support looks, and won't read the white-balance, so you'll get as RAW as you can possibly get from the camera (i.e., 10-bit log and completely uncorrected).

One thing to keep in mind though is that I don't think you have our advanced demosaic algorithm (maybe you do, I just can't remember) you just have the default bilinear or 5x5, so if there are some artifacts from demosaicing in the DPX output, that's something that can change with a better algorithm (that we provide).

BTW, this AE trick is just temporary . . . David is making much more comprehensive controls that will allow you to get back to the RAW source data and manipulate the AVI metadata . . . and looks in AE will be supported soon . . . so again, this is just a temporary short-fix if you want to see what a raw, uncorrected frame looks like.

Also because a RAW frame will have no matrix, the colors will be a bit off and need to be corrected and saturated. A 3x3 matrix transform is not a set of curves though! You're actually changing the RGB cube shape, akin to the Channel Mixer in Photoshop or After Effects . . . so don't be fooled into thinking that re-doing the matrix by hand is easy . . . but it's nice to see what a RAW frame looks like. Just don't be alarmed if you're not able to color-correct to the perfect colors you want without a pre-matrix'd image.
 
Also Chris,

If you want to post a portion of a CineForm RAW file, just download VirtualDub, and set the program for the "DirectStream" mode so that it won't process/render any footage . . . it will just do a data dump. Now just select the in and out point that you would like, and export that segment of RAW into a new, smaller AVI file.
 
I just use the standard 1280x720/24P WMHD profile in the Adobe Media Converter and increase the bit-rate to around 8Mb/s (megabit/second, not megabyte/second).

Also I usually use two-pass.
 
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