My Latest FS700 & Odyssey 7Q+ Run-&-Gun Rig

pythonman

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Hi All,

I thought I'd share with you my latest rig. I've got it into a place where I'm very happy, to the point where I no longer look at the FS7 with envy! I made the decision to bolster my FS700 with the O7Q+ rather than sell my FS700 and replace with the FS7 (an option I nearly went for). I researched for many weeks to find all the necessary pieces of rig to not only compliment with what I already owned (Kinotehink viewfinder for instance) but to also accomplish a set-up that I could use straight out of the bag, both on the shoulder and on the tripod, without any further setting up/altering.


These are the things I wanted to achieve:


  • A completely flat rig - so I could take it straight in-and-out of the bag and be able to place it flat down on a surface. Often I see rigs (FS7 included) with front down-turned handles. Whilst I appreciate this may improve some weight distribution on the shoulder I don't like the fact it means you can't place the camera flat down or straight in-and-out of a bag. News-gathering ENG cameras have worked perfectly well with the handle in-line with the camera for decades!
  • Perfect balance when on the shoulder - not front or back heavy.
  • A top handle that was positioned in the (adjustable) centre of gravity of the whole rig, and that was able to take my Kinotehink viewfinder and my Sennheiser shotgun microphone.
  • The rig should primarily work and be set-up with the Canon 24-105 L with speedbooster for standard use, other lenses for specific needs on occasion.
  • Be able to change lenses without anything being in the way, plus to add a lens support for a long lens (such as the Canon 70-200 2.8)
  • Be able to punch-in to check focus, change focus, and zoom in and out, without taking my eye away from the viewfinder.
  • Be able to power the camera, Odyssey and viewfinder from one power source - but still be able to access the FS700's own battery compartment just in case.
  • Ideally be used with a VCT tripod plate - this is not only easy to take on-and-off the tripod, but also means that the baseplate/shoulder-mount will have VCT plate connectors built-in and not requiring an additional tripod plate screwed into the underside (helping it stay flat on a surface).
  • Overall have a super-neat rig - keeping protruding parts to a minimum, plus cable-tidy as much as possible.

So my rig consists of the following main components:


  • Sony FS700 with 4K firmware upgraded
  • Sennheiser K6/ME66 microphone with Rycote Softie (had this mic for years!)
  • Odyssey 7Q+ with Raw bundle
  • Kinotehink LCDVFe Viewfinder (came supplied with friction-mount rig parts)
  • Kinotehink Remote Control for LCDVFe Viewfinder (clamped to the 15mm bar with a 90-degree Kinotehink rod clamp)
  • Zacutto VCT universal baseplate plus 15mm rails front and back
  • Zacuto FS700 Grip Relocator (left over from the Zacuto FS700 Shooter rig I used previously) - plus extension LANC cable
  • Metabones Speedbooster
  • Canon 24-105 L F4 Lens (with a follow focus gear attached so I can reach the focus ring easier, plus a Varavon Sling grip Lever to use the zoom easily with the same hand)
  • Century Optics 0DS-FH44-00 Clamp-on Sunshade/Filter holder (already owned this, but nicely fits the Canon 24-105 and means I don't need a much bulkier matte box)
  • Wooden Camera FS700 top plate.
  • Wooden Camera NATO Handle Kit Plus (70mm) - with added 15mm bars front (to take my Kinotehink viewfinder) and back (the back 15mm bar requiring a 15-19mm step-up spacer) to extend the handle slightly so that I can hold it further back when I use a heavier lens.
  • Wooden Camera Recorder Slide
  • Wooden Camera V-Mount plate (with FS700 power connector), plus necessary d-tap power cables for the Odyssey and the Kinotehink viewfinder.
  • IDX Endura CUE-D75 Battery (I wanted slim v-mount batteries)
  • Movcam Rosette Rod Clamp
  • Movcam Rosette Handgrip (with normal M screw instead of the supplied bulkier rosette clamp screw)
  • Lanparte EXT-02 rosette spacer (this allows the Movcam handle to be brought out further so I can easily reach the Kinotehink Remote Control with my thumb.
Hope you found this helpful/interesting. Feel free to comment or ask questions. Here are some photos:

FRONT VIEW:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 001.jpg

TOP VIEW:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 002.jpg

BACK VIEW:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 003.jpg

LEFT VIEW:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 004.jpg

RIGHT VIEW:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 005.jpg

RIGHT VIEW ON SHOULDER:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 006.jpg

LEFT VIEW ON SHOULDER:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 014.jpg

BACK VIEW ON SHOULDER:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 007.jpg

FRONT VIEW ON SHOULDER:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 008.jpg

PERFECT BALANCE OF TOP HANDLE:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 009.jpg

LEFT-SIDE MOVCAM HANDLE:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 010.jpg

THUMB ON KINOTEHNIK REMOTE CONTROL (for puch-in focus plus other functions) AND FOREFINGER ON FOCUS RING:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 011.jpg

NORMAL VIEW ON KINOTEHNIK VIEWFINDER:

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 013.jpg

PUNCHED-IN VIEW ON KINOTEHNIK VIEWFINDER (sorry about the poor photo - it looks better than this in reality!):

FS700 Rig June 2015 - 012.jpg
 
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EDIT: by adding a 2inch 15mm rod extension (to the existing 4inch rod) on the top handle I've since lowered the EVF and moved it slightly forward, sits much better now.
 
Beautiful rig! What do you have for the microphone holder? I ordered a used FS700 that's coming with the mic but no microphone holder.
 
Thanks kaidmudo!

The mic holder is the original one supplied with the FS700, minus the hotshoe piece. The 15mm rod of the mic holder slots nicely horizontally into the Wooden Camera top handle. I needed to add a plastic spacer around the Sennheiser mic so that the holder clamps sufficiently over it, otherwise it would have been too loose - fortunately I still had one from a previous rig, but otherwise gaffer tape would have worked.
 
Thanks for sharing very informative,
right now basically looking for a better powering solution ( my 7Q hold down frame at high 240fps 2K so often with sony battery)
do you power both FS700 and Odyssey with your powering ( v lock? system)
wich type of cable to the s700 ( i assume it's a d-tap for 7Q) ?
appreciated your feedback thanks
 
Thanks for sharing very informative,
right now basically looking for a better powering solution ( my 7Q hold down frame at high 240fps 2K so often with sony battery)
do you power both FS700 and Odyssey with your powering ( v lock? system)
wich type of cable to the s700 ( i assume it's a d-tap for 7Q) ?
appreciated your feedback thanks

Yes I power the FS700, Odyssey and the EVF all from the v-lock battery solution. The Wooden Camera Recorder Slide has the optional v-lock plate on the back of it - I bought the specific one for the FS700 which incorporates the power cable for the FS700:

http://woodencamera.com/WC-V-Mount-FS700.html

The great thing is that the Wooden Camera v-lock plate also incorporates 2 x d-tap sockets. One I use for the Odyssey power cable, the other I use for the power cable to the Kinotehink LCDVFe viewfinder.

You may be able to get a separate d-tap to FS700 power connector. One other option would be to get this:

http://www.hawkwoods.com/Prods/Product/LR-05
 
Yes I power the FS700, Odyssey and the EVF all from the v-lock battery solution. The Wooden Camera Recorder Slide has the optional v-lock plate on the back of it - I bought the specific one for the FS700 which incorporates the power cable for the FS700:

http://woodencamera.com/WC-V-Mount-FS700.html

The great thing is that the Wooden Camera v-lock plate also incorporates 2 x d-tap sockets. One I use for the Odyssey power cable, the other I use for the power cable to the Kinotehink LCDVFe viewfinder.

You may be able to get a separate d-tap to FS700 power connector. One other option would be to get this:

http://www.hawkwoods.com/Prods/Product/LR-05


thanks, so basically the woodencamera allows 3 output of powering solutions, right ? which battery must be used for this v-lock ? thanks
 
thanks, so basically the woodencamera allows 3 output of powering solutions, right ? which battery must be used for this v-lock ? thanks

3 outputs, yes. One integral FS700 power cable plus 2 x dtaps. You can use any vlock battery as far as I know. The IDX vlock battery I use has a dtap socket on it too!

If all you're after is a vlock battery solution for your FS700 (rather than one that integrates with the Recorder Slide and Odyssey) then there are a number of other makes and models I've seen when Google searching, some cheaper, and some with more sockets.
 
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That's a lovely looking set up. I've been through so many iterations to get where i am but never been 100% happy. The shoulder pad on this looks more comfortable than the movcam i currently use.

How heavy is it all? Recently i had cause to strip some of my rig down and realised how damn heavy all this stuff is and how much nicer it was to move a lighter rig around. This rig looks heavy to me too?

And it looks like you're not looping the O7Q back into the EVF, is there a reason for that?

cheers
Paul
 
That's a lovely looking set up. I've been through so many iterations to get where i am but never been 100% happy. The shoulder pad on this looks more comfortable than the movcam i currently use.

How heavy is it all? Recently i had cause to strip some of my rig down and realised how damn heavy all this stuff is and how much nicer it was to move a lighter rig around. This rig looks heavy to me too?

And it looks like you're not looping the O7Q back into the EVF, is there a reason for that?

cheers
Paul

Thank you Paul.

The shoulder pad is comfortable yes. It is reasonably heavy I guess (haven't actually weighed it yet) but because it is pretty-near perfectly balanced on my shoulder the weight feels OK to me. Before I purchased the Odyssey (a month ago) my rig was lighter, but it was front-heavy, which caused more fatigue. So although my new rig is heavier overall I can use it for longer on the shoulder. Bear in mind I have been using ENG cameras for many years (DSR-570 year's ago for example) and so I'm very happy with shoulder-mount cameras in general. If I want to use a lighter system I'll just grab my A7S.

Yes, correct, I haven't yet connected the EVF to the Odyssey. I could do if I wanted to, but I'm familiar with relying on the camera's overlays in the viewfinder, and the great thing is that the FS700 will simultaneously output the overlays through the HDMI whilst clean-out with the SDI (when in RAW 4K out to the Odyssey). Downside is I don't see the LUT on the EVF, so it's more washed-out with SLOG-2. I may well experiment with looping out from the Odyssey, see which I prefer. The Odyssey is still all pretty new to me!
 
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3 outputs, yes. One integral FS700 power cable plus 2 x dtaps. You can use any vlock battery as far as I know. The IDX vlock battery I use has a dtap socket on it too!

If all you're after is a vlock battery solution for your FS700 (rather than one that integrates with the Recorder Slide and Odyssey) then there are a number of other makes and models I've seen when Google searching, some cheaper, and some with more sockets.


Thanks Jonathan ! the wooden camera vlock look cool, and i didn't find on google other brands any recommendations ? basically it feets my need one power for FS700 and 2 tap one 7Q and one left (audio..) thanks
 
How heavy is it all? Recently i had cause to strip some of my rig down and realised how damn heavy all this stuff is and how much nicer it was to move a lighter rig around. This rig looks heavy to me too?

Just put the camera on the scales. It weighs 7.5kg (16.5lbs). This is with everything including batteries (v-lock and back-up NP-F in the FS700 battery compartment). This weight is similar to a high-spec ENG camera with lens, which I was using a few years ago. But as I said, because it's very well balanced (doesn't tip forward or back on the shoulder) I can handle it fairly well.
 
Jonathan, sorry i wasn't enough clear : i was meaning the voltage needed for 7Q and FS700 about powering to choose v-lock power output
 
Jonathan, sorry i wasn't enough clear : i was meaning the voltage needed for 7Q and FS700 about powering to choose v-lock power output

I think the FS700 input is 7.2 volts. The vlock batteries are 14.8v, so I'm assuming the Wooden Camera vlock plate (with the integral FS700 power cable) is converting the voltage accordingly. I'm no expert at this, all I know is it works!
 
I think the FS700 input is 7.2 volts. The vlock batteries are 14.8v, so I'm assuming the Wooden Camera vlock plate (with the integral FS700 power cable) is converting the voltage accordingly. I'm no expert at this, all I know is it works!


thanks for all your informations, learn a lot by this thread most appreciated :thumbsup:
 
Awesome rig! Exactly the kind of thing I've been looking for. I assume this could be done with a similar plate for Anton Bauers as well? I have Wooden's model with connector to the FS700 and 15mm rail attachment. And what attaches to the 7Q - is that the Wooden Recorder Slide? Thanks for posting!!
 
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