My first shoot with the FS700 was a...

I had this happen when I shot a scene with a person fiddling with a radio antenna. The whole antenna is a pixelated mess, looks really bad. I sent an email to sony and they wont do anything to fix it and recommended the use of ND filter to help with the problem.

Another time this happened was in the eye of the actor where theres a reflection of a spot light, looks horrible and impossible to notice from the monitor. It will hit you when youre revieving the footage on a full size screen.

I'm really really hoping Odyssey 7Q will make these problems disappear...
 
Ok, so the edge aliasing wasn't as bad as I first feared in the end (still a bit nasty)... The biggest problem turned out to be bad make-up on the singer. I kick myself for not catching that on set, but I guess having to do so many things leads you to miss some things. But it turned out to be a big pain in post, and a bit beyond my correction abilities. Guess I need to start learning Resolve. I worked entirely within FCPX. There seems to be some sort of anti-aliasing thing going on when exporting from FCPX! No sure if this is imagined or real though ;)
Anyway. here's the result:
https://vimeo.com/87073724
I guess my biggest isue with it now (apart from the make up) is that I didn't quite get the background completely white in all shots...
 
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I think the background is way too hot. Great video, you're very talented but I know exactly what happened I did the same thing one time made some adjustments and things are fine. I pretty much only shoot s-logII even in 8 bit, a little cooler background I thought the band was well lit if you shot it in s-log with all that power behind you I don't think you would've had a problem.
 
Thanks Marino.

The idea was to get the background completely white, and i thought the best way to achieve that was by overexposing it a bit. I found myself a bit out of my natural habitat, I'm used to shooting in dark spaces, and here I was in a bright studio with lots of white ;)
Also, on my EA50 and tended to pretty much just use one picture profile, so at this shoot I completely forgot to try out different ones... How do you find the sLog2 to hold up in post in 8bit AVCHD?
 
stevenblatter said:
For the make up issue try using the Cosmo effect in Magic Bullet Looks. It works quite well on skin!
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Unfortunately I don't own Magic Bullets...
the trickiest part was that the makeup was a colour very different from his own and badly applied (the girl I thought was the makeup artist was in fact just their stylist and no MUA at set). And because I had to keep the background as bright and white as possible I had to try all sorts of trickery with masks and selective colour ranges etc... And I just don't have the experience with that advanced colour correction... And there was no budget or time to give it to a colourist.
 
dmitrizigany said:
Thanks Marino.

The idea was to get the background completely white, and i thought the best way to achieve that was by overexposing it a bit. I found myself a bit out of my natural habitat, I'm used to shooting in dark spaces, and here I was in a bright studio with lots of white ;)
Also, on my EA50 and tended to pretty much just use one picture profile, so at this shoot I completely forgot to try out different ones... How do you find the sLog2 to hold up in post in 8bit AVCHD?
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Hi, I usually find when the conditions are pretty good, just decent lighting I can work with the 8 bit s-logII. As long as I have the sigma 18-35 f1.8 attached there's not much that gets in my way as far as noise. And I rarely go above 4000 ISO, once in a whole I see 6400 but not a lot. Knowing this camera was pretty good in lowlight i wasnt expecting too much as far grading goes. Im not a highly skilled color corrector but the tweaks I do are fine for my type of work. I also have a little secret, from time to time i use a plug-in called dark energy by Cinnafilm, it eradicates the noise almost completely, just tool some settings and I think it looks great. But a real fast lens, some decent lighting I have no problem using s-logII 95% of the time. Hopefully with in the month I'll have the odyssey, I'm counting the days. Stay well and again I thought the video was really done well. Thanks
 
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Thanks once again. Would like to get the Sigma 18-35 as well. And I'm hoping I can afford the 7Q in the near future as well... Would love to be able to tweak the footage in more extreme ways!
 
BTW, I could see some of the attempts to clean up the clipping, and to my eye, it just adds to the look and feel of the whole video. It looks like a blend of the future and the past. Kind of a time warp effect. Maybe it's just me, but it sure seems to capture the look of the band with the sound of their music. :)
 
Thanks again, Sheldon!
Turned out much better than I thought when I first saw the footage. But being a bit of a perfectionist, I'm never really happy, haha. The band and their manager seem to be happy about it though and if all goes well I'm going with them to LA for two weeks to shoot a road movie/documentary. That would be great!
 
The best artists are always the perfectionisits. The only danger is that perfectionists rarely feel like the work is good enough to show or put out there. It's just never ready.... The artist who understands business though, realizes that work has to get delivered and within budget, and will learn to let go, provided it's not a complete disaster that will hurt one's business. That's the balance we all need to find, in order to enjoy both financial AND artistic success.
 
I think this highlights one of the things about what we do. We must look at stuff in motion and not pixel peep. I didn't see any issues, looked great and worked for the band. But we tend to analyse frame by frame and get really hung up on perfection. In VFX this is a really big issue, we look at the trees and not the forest. Back in the ol' days if you saw a matte painting it would be almost impressionistic, these days because we're frame by framing in comp, so much work gets sent back because it doesn't look right as a still. But actually then what happens is the brain when watching in motion gets caught up looking at too much detail and thinks it's wrong. Okay, i'll step off my soapbox now.

Good job, dmitrizigany

In the future if you can shoot with an O7Q you'll have a safety net for this type of thing, the linear RAW would help no end.

cheers
Paul
 
Thanks, Paul.

Yes, its easy to get caught up in details that only you will notice but that the intended audience would never care about ;)

Sure hope to be able to afford the 7Q sooner rather than later. Considering selling my old EA50 to fund it. But need to find out if two cameras are better financially than one really good at this time... Decisions decisions ;)
 
Overall, I think this looks great!

disagree with the comment about the background being too white. For this sort of video, it can never be too white. Crank up the brights!
The tight shot of the bass guitar was wonderful.

While I feel the background looks fine, overall I think the band members look a little flat. Keep in mind I'm watching quickly on an iPhone. I'll double back later and watch it on a bigger screen. Nice work.
 
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We must look at stuff in motion and not pixel peep. I didn't see any issues, looked great and worked for the band. But we tend to analyse frame by frame and get really hung up on perfection.
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Yup, I saw absolutely no problems with it, apart from the wide shots looking a little milky (probably lens flare) - of course I was very distracted by the lead singer's make-up, which was, perhaps, a little heavy.
 
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Yup, I saw absolutely no problems with it, apart from the wide shots looking a little milky (probably lens flare) - of course I was very distracted by the lead singer's make-up, which was, perhaps, a little heavy.
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Yes, that turned out to be the single biggest issue. It was in a colour many shades away from his natural and also badly applied. It ruins things quite a bit. I was wearing too many hats combined with in a new environment with a new camera so it slipped through at the shoot. Lesson learned.
 
I wanted the entire video and can't see any problems at all. I think it's very well done!

The singers makeup, however, is easily noticed. Looks like he is just getting over some food poisoning. But hey, the band is amateur, and I think any amateur band would be screaming "THIS IS AWESOME!!!" if they had a video that was this cool.

Dave
 
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