My DVX trailer

did you write the script yourself too?

I really enjoyed this and it definantly inspired me. I don't really care what budget you had this was awesome!
 
well with enough time, any movie can be made with very few people. The reason I'm kind of skeptical, is that Ozan doesn't seem to be very combative or informative when it comes to these accusations. His response to some of the harsher challenges has been the equivalent of: "Yeah, it is possible. I just zoomed in". He hasn't answered the bigger questions. Like how he got the mercedes. That costs money. How he got the shipyard. That costs money. How he convinced someone to let him use a loader for "no money". Do you think a shipyard would let you drive one of their loaders around in a potentially dangerous scene without insurance? That costs money.

And anybody who thinks a pretend SWAT team busting into a house is an "easy" thing to do, are you fu*king nuts!???" It's one thing if you have a 70 person crew around with huge diffusion screens and big cranes so that people know a film is going on. But if you have a tiny little DVX and are the equivalent of hidden and you're in the middle of a neighborhood where nobody knows what's going on and the neighbors all of a sudden look over and see ten swat team members with guns, you can get in some real deep sh*t for that. Which means you'd have to tell the police ahead of time. And the police would have to come and stand by. And policeman cost money. And do you think the police would allow SWAT team members with guns (pretend or not) running around without a certified gun specialist on set? No. And that costs money.

Another thing I'm skeptical of is that the writing in Ozan's post is not consistent with the dialogue in Ozan's movie. I don't think the poster could write that dialogue. Go ahead and compare the two.

I know that if I were challenged like this, I would come in and specifically lay down each and every instance of debate and explain in detail how it was done.

Then again if this is all true, he probably doesn't have time for that. I shouldn't have time for these posts either as I should making movies.

Damn.

Now I've depressed myself.

Anyway, the point is that it's very smart to promote your film with an angle. It's always more fun to talk about something (like we're doing here) if you think it couldn't be done. That sparks debate. Buzz. Excitement. So it's not unlikely that someone would do this. Ozan, how much did your film cost really?
 
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I'll make one more comment and then I'm done with this whoel thing.

The swat team scene - Am I the only person to notice there are only two guys in a "swat Type" uniform at any one time?

I have those outfits myself that I am goign to use in my film, in fact I have 5 SETS OF THEM, I paid liek $200 for the whole getup, vests, black pants, face masks. So now that I think about it, you use the same 2 outfits for one scene then the same for another? What exatly is so incredible about that?

The car chase scene - Did anyone actually see more then ONE car on the road!? Duh, film when no ones around and the clip is like 1.5 seconds.

Seriously, trailer wise, now that I have a fresh presepective, I could duplicate this entire trailer scene for scene - coming up with it and cutting it myself like he did - I could not "Yet"

Don't Be hating the player - hate the game - Course if you are lying, your going to filmmakers hell, or what I like to call - Tulsa Oklahoma. :kali:
 
Here I go, I know I shouldn't get into this debate. Nice trailer, but I won't go down the complementing path till I see the whole film. The trailer does peak my curiosity. What I would find difficult achieving as a one man team is, dealing with all the props, outfits. Coordinating the action without a couple of assistants. There are a couple of close-ups that seem to have been wet down, and there even seems to be smoke or steam in a cu. Now if you are just plain smarter, more physically able and more driven than me, and the rest of us here, big Kudos. Your a genius and you shouldn't bother answering all of our stupid questions anyway. But I'm not a genius and I was also curious about the credits...can't read them on my little quicktime, but are all the credits you? We're curious...that's why we waste time on this bloody site anyway.
 
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well with enough time, any movie can be made with very few people. The reason I'm kind of skeptical, is that Ozan doesn't seem to be very combative or informative when it comes to these accusations. His response to some of the harsher challenges has been the equivalent of: "Yeah, it is possible. I just zoomed in". He hasn't answered the bigger questions. Like how he got the mercedes. That costs money. How he got the shipyard. That costs money. How he convinced someone to let him use a loader for "no money". Do you think a shipyard would let you drive one of their loaders around in a potentially dangerous scene without insurance? That costs money.

And anybody who thinks a pretend SWAT team busting into a house is an "easy" thing to do, are you fu*king nuts!???" It's one thing if you have a 70 person crew around with huge diffusion screens and big cranes so that people know a film is going on. But if you have a tiny little DVX and are the equivalent of hidden and you're in the middle of a neighborhood where nobody knows what's going on and the neighbors all of a sudden look over and see ten swat team members with guns, you can get in some real deep sh*t for that. Which means you'd have to tell the police ahead of time. And the police would have to come and stand by. And policeman cost money. And do you think the police would allow SWAT team members with guns (pretend or not) running around without a certified gun specialist on set? No. And that costs money.

Another thing I'm skeptical of is that the writing in Ozan's post is not consistent with the dialogue in Ozan's movie. I don't think the poster could write that dialogue. Go ahead and compare the two.

I know that if I were challenged like this, I would come in and specifically lay down each and every instance of debate and explain in detail how it was done.

Then again if this is all true, he probably doesn't have time for that. I shouldn't have time for these posts either as I should making movies.

Damn.

Now I've depressed myself.

Anyway, the point is that it's very smart to promote your film with an angle. It's always more fun to talk about something (like we're doing here) if you think it couldn't be done. That sparks debate. Buzz. Excitement. So it's not unlikely that someone would do this. Ozan, how much did your film cost really?
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Dude, you sound pretty defeatist. I once worked on an indie feature with 5 full tactical team uniforms that were loaned to us by local police. We had over twenty locations, all loaned to us for free - including City Hall. The police even closed off ten streets on a Sunday so we could have a car chase and we wrecked a bunch of cars that were donated by a local car dealership's junkyard for free. (They even towed the cars to the location and then towed them away.) We even blew up a car and the local fire department used it as a training exercise for their new recruits. We got all of our locations for free..how? We asked the right people. Producing a cheap film takes balls to ask for things for free, to shoot what some people wouldn't even think of trying without a million dollars. Watch the trailer again, I think you are 'projecting' a bit into what is really on the screen. (The SWAT team looks like a few guys in uniforms with airsoft guns to me, the car chase is one car only, etc.) I think the impact of exceptional editing and sound design is messing with your mind. And questioning who wrote the dialogue based on the language in his post? You are thinking about this way too much...

The stock dvx or adapter discussion reminds me of this thread, where ncje posts a clip that she shot with a 'homemade 35mm adapter' and sits back while everyone fawns over the amazingly shallow DOF, then she reveals she was joking - it was the stock dvx lens:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=67329&highlight=adapter
 
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wow, looks amazing. reminds me of syriana. to me it seems like everything in the trailer *could* be pulled off on no budget, but with huge favors (especially the train yard scene).
 
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guys, here's a trailer I made for pennies. it took me 4 weeks to edit. Yay! we ate sushi once after the shoot my the mountain... mc
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Well... If you think about it all of that stuff except -- the aerial shots, epic war, costume design, state of the art special effects, thousands of extras, amazing sound design, cliff hanging shots, filmic look and a few more hundred factors -- this could probably be done in pennies as well. I mean, c'mon.
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Also the difference between a good trailer and a full length film is HUUUUUUUUUUUGE! Shortcomings in acting, staging, directing may be masked by quick cuts but wont hold up at regular pacing. Maybe the helicopter shot is B roll that he shot when working on the film above. Maybe he vent on one of those tourist helicopter rides for a 100$ than combined it with an arial shot lifted of youtube to be replaced once he got funding. Doing a police sequence with model guns on your property is not exactly illegal, plus, maybe its quite grannies street where every one knows little Biron is making a movie, dont see why you might not be able with a handful of actors to shoot even for a few days. Maybe he borrowed the guns from the props master he met on a previous shoot. This is Canada, small industry where everyone knows each other. I think there is nothing in this TRAILER that could not have bin done by essentially one guy, maybe with the occasional help a actor or relative. Not to rip on it, I seriously doubt that he made 90 minutes in the same quality as the trailer.
 
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I monitor this site and when I came across this thread I had to post a comment. I have produced several small productions and several large with a two man crew and many more and have accomplished some pretty exciting things. I must say that after viewing this gentleman's trailer I would have to agree with the minority here that "yes" it is possible even very likely he did this as a one-man-band.

If you view the trailer in slo-mo with Quicktime you may notice small irregularities: When the man is walking past the "BDC" building just after he passes the white sign in the BG if you look very, very closely you can make out "One" person holding something dark (Probably the DVX) in the reflection in the window. Another scene is about mid-way through when we see the SWAT team and Police enter the home from their right-- there is a tripod in the front yard, a camera bag to the west and to the north-east and what looks like a large dark blue vest hanging on the fence.

The only point I am trying to make is it's more than possible he did this himself. A large crew with a "Budget" would catch such things while standing around.

Be happy for the guy, no need to dissect his brain for every dirty detail and make accusations because we can't fathom that this could ever have been done as described. If you feel it can't be done on a shoestring budget with one guy then go out and show the rest of the world it really can't be done-- if that's your thing!

Until then just keep creating and support one another. That's what this site was originally started for-- not to accuse and debunk, but to support and encourage.

Be scary ALL!
R.
 
I choose to be inspired and motivated by the trailer.

I have a student at the gym whose father drives a Mercedes. I am sure he would get a kick out of driving his car for a movie. I also have a student who manages a loading dock. I have no doubt he would let me shoot there. He would probably even put on a mask and drive a fork truck around for me. I have taught firearms classes for Police Depts all over the country. I am pretty sure that one of them would be happy to help me with a scene or two. I know quite a few people with their private pilots license. That footage would not be a problem at all.

Could he be pulling one over on us all. Sure. But why would we rather believe that than be inspired by what he was able to accomplish.

If it is bogus then he has succeeded in inspiring us to look at all the ways we could recreate his work.
 
Wow, very well done. I noticed a little bit of Jablonsky in the trailer. If you are a one-man crew, it gives me hope haha
 
Can I be your friend? :)
That looks awesome.
If you did all that on your own you've certainly got a good demo reel!
 
Yeah okay, it's possible for him to make this movie on what he says was made with just "pennies." I don't question his ability to put this together....But I think the thing that is the most frustrating is the fact that everyone has these theories on how he could put this together with a small budget but we're not hearing from the man himself the details and answers to all of these questions asked....It may be legit and for that well done...We are just so intrigued to find out how he did some of the stuff he did but we end up getting little to no info given up about the movie details...NOT EVEN THE PRODUCTION COST!

If I put together a movie like this I would love to explain each and every detail and the process I went through to get each shot....I think anyone would be proud of a project like this which he probably is, but share some of the goods homie!

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