My biggest problem with this DLSR age we now live in

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deadby23

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I seriously cannot stand the amount of "test" videos or videos of nothing but people doing every day things but filmed with a canon that have flooded vimeo

I WANNA SEE SHORT FILMS WITH STORIES

im sure someone has said this before on here but im fed up with this
 
I wanna see short films with stories and it bums me out when i have to sift through pages and pages of videos on vimeo just to find one that actually has some type of plot. Maybe i was being a bit dramatic with the original post.
 
Yeah, I agree. And it will become more apparent as cameras (not just dslrs) become prettier and cheaper. I for one am tired of the Philip Bloom styles. (slider dolly, closeup of leaves, slider dolly, wide shot of a field, slider dolly, people walking, slider dolly....set to some copyrighted classical song). No offense to Philip though. Or to my slider. ;)
 
Yeah... tests were fun at the start when the cams were first introduced but they're getting pretty tired now.

And, arniepix, if they were well identified as "TEST" I would avoid watching them. Unfortunately they rarely are.
 
Texas Jones said:
Yeah, I agree. And it will become more apparent as cameras (not just dslrs) become prettier and cheaper. I for one am tired of the Philip Bloom styles. (slider dolly, closeup of leaves, slider dolly, wide shot of a field, slider dolly, people walking, slider dolly....set to some copyrighted classical song). No offense to Philip though. Or to my slider. ;)
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I cannot express how much I hate the 'DSLR style' of shooting, especially anything done on a slider. I'd rather see a nicely framed static shot from a tripod, or even just a pan, than throwing in a slider dolly shot coming from behind a wall/tree/leaf/car because you think it looks good.
 
For so long, I sought after the cinematic look of a shallow depth of field. Now, with the emergence of DSLR, all I see is shallow, and more so, ultra shallow, depth of field cinematography - this has made me actually hate shallow depth of field cinematography somewhat. Don't get me wrong, I love the look and aesthetic a shallow depth of field can deliver, but it's really getting abused these days to the point where it has become mediocre...
 
I like the sliders. I mean its really nothing but a small dolly. I guess it really depends on how people use it.
 
Jean Dantes said:
For so long, I sought after the cinematic look of a shallow depth of field. Now, with the emergence of DSLR, all I see is shallow, and more so, ultra shallow, depth of field cinematography - this has made me actually hate shallow depth of field cinematography somewhat. Don't get me wrong, I love the look and aesthetic a shallow depth of field can deliver, but it's really getting abused these days to the point where it has become mediocre...
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http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?226497-DOF-more-dangerous-than-crack
 
None of it really matters. . . The low cost has given a bunch of people the chance to try their hand . . .

Some will just recreate what has already been done . . . shoot a ton of landscape/ peoplescape/ slider/ jib/ merlin/ dolly 'tests'. . . then get bored and sell their gear.
Some will shoot horror slasher films . . . then graduate from high school/ college and take a corporate job.
Some will have beautiful home movies . . . big files, but shallow focus. . . remember, sometimes kids get tired of Dad/ Mom chasing them with a camera.
Some will shoot snowboard / bmx/ parkour stuff . . . then become stuntmen (one of my childhood whimsies).
Some will write anything and shoot anything just to say that they are filmmakers. . . (chicks dig filmmakers . . . and drummers).
Some will write lousy scripts, film bad actors with crummy lighting and dismal sound. . . feel pretty proud of the accomplishment and post it on Vimeo. . . in HD. . . Coool.
Some will never even try to learn about Human dynamics or what makes a good story.
Some will hang out more than they should on forums commenting (knowingly) on other people's work and never leave the peanut gallery.
Some will realize they don't really want to be filmmakers. . . then sell their gear.
Some will compete with others artistically . . . and never with themselves.

Some will start by copying others, learn from the experience, get bored . . . then begin to think/ act for themselves.. . . Originality (or at least a different angle) begins here.
Some will create what they see/ want to see.
Some will produce a good solid Webisode. . . then a better one next time.
Some will study composition, learn about acting/ actors, learn to identify a good script, choose good scripts hire a DP. . . and eventually will tell a good story using a camera.
Some ARE "the next generation" of DP's, Directors, Producers.
Some will sign a contract with Warner Bros. (3 picture deal).
Some will become "the next" Bresson, Bergman, Cassavetes (add you favorite Auteur to the list).
Some will make one brilliant movie. . . then sell their gear.
Some will make one film after another, learning everything they possibly can as they go, cultivate the desire and then the ability to begin to try to understand the Human animal/ experience, realize that content is king . . . then one day tell a classic and timeless story . . . using their camera and their soul. . . and possibly become extraordinary individuals. . . then turn down the Oscar.

Some are just dreamin'. . .
Some are just havin' fun . . .

There are millions of pencils and only one Da Vinci . . . but don't forget about Rembrandt, Vermeer, Titian, Renoir, and so on . . . on some level they were probably dreaming and having fun.

What does matter (to me) is to know where >I < am going. . .
 
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Nicely said Granville! And some will do all of those things.

What gets me, is that most of the people who complain about what others are posting, regardless of what it is, rarely offer constructive criticism or post anything themselves. I've been in post production for more than 20 years so the introduction of DSLR has been a chance for me to find out how difficult production can be. I post a wide variety of crap, I've done and continue to do the stuff most of you are complaining about, you know that Philip Bloom kind of stuff.

I can't act, can't write and can barely focus but I don't care, this is fun, its challenging, and most importantly Granville is right, chicks dig a guy with a camera.

Oh crap, here comes my wife.

I forgot, for those of you aspiring filmmakers writing the next great screenplay, can I borrow your advanced copy of the Panasonic AF100? I have no idea where I'm going, I only know where I've been.
 
I have a short film will be ready end of November. Was entirely shot with canon 7d:

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In a few years time we'll have comments on videos saying "That was awesome. The background and foreground were both in focus. How did you do it?" "I just used the new Letus Insanium deep depth of field adaptor."
 
I don't really tend to think about what's out there too much, for me, my main problem is 99% that I'm just going through a horrible time right now in my life with medical issues, my social life, and I'm pretty much stuck at home in bed until things may change someday. I love using this time to learn, but to be honest, I wish there were better places to get overall a ton of knowledge in one place, billions of filmmaking facts that either were set in stone or explained enough where you can confidently bend them for your purpose...

Plus, I'm having a hard time truly feeling like the video on my DSLR is high quality enough to pose as at least a 1998 camcorder, but I'm taking my camera to the city today to test it against other cameras in the shop if they'll let me, to see if my camera's truly lagging behind unnaturally in quality.
 
LMAO, slider dolly-take a dump, slider dolly-eatsome dinner, slider dolly-go to work, slider dolly-drink a beer. hahahah

Yeah, I hear you. It's funny how everyone that owns a camera is now a DP.


Texas Jones said:
Yeah, I agree. And it will become more apparent as cameras (not just dslrs) become prettier and cheaper. I for one am tired of the Philip Bloom styles. (slider dolly, closeup of leaves, slider dolly, wide shot of a field, slider dolly, people walking, slider dolly....set to some copyrighted classical song). No offense to Philip though. Or to my slider. ;)
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And then again, there are those do not care too much for videos that were nicely shot with a great story wrap around it. Case and point... the overwhelming majority of videos on youtube that gets the most hits has nothing to do with asthetic, artistic, and whatever the heck else that has to do with the rules of filmmaking.

Sometimes I want to see stuff that are professionally done with artistic expressions. Sometimes, I just want to see whatever is out there that's fun to watch. Things I don't want to watch, I just simply don't waste my time on it.

There are no rules as to what anyone can upload. So, who am I to complain. What people put up is their own efforts, prides and joy. Who cares.
 
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