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Whats the best way to shoot them?

Tell me if I am on the right path.


I would have them sing the entire song fully through, this would be my WS.

I would have them sing it again and I'd do a WS on a dolly, then again and do a MS #1, again, MS #2, again MS #3 then again with a CU w/sticks on singer #1, then again with a CU w/sticks on singer #2, then again with CU handheld on #1, again with a CU handheld on #2.

That would just be for A1

for B1 I would do all the MS's with a dolly, the wide shots with a jib, the CU's on sticks.

Then for C1 I would do all the MS's on sticks, the WS with a dolly and jib and the CU's I'd do on sticks.

I'm trying to see if having them singing it all the way through is a good idea or not.

Issue I'm having is filming the close up's---there is two of them... I could be filming one the entire video and he may only sing for about 45 seconds out of the entire song but in bits and pieces.




Question:

Shutter speed: I had a really good idea with the drummer, we're gonna pour water on the drums so when he drums the watter splashes. What would be a ideal shutter speed with 30p to get the water drops nice and slow.

The idea I have in mind is the water drips off his face with a CU then the drip falls onto the drums and it goes into a MS/WS of the drums and he bangs them and the water flys up.

I don't know AF enough to do it in post so I'm going to do this on location. Any ideas?

This video will be shot on 24pA and the slow motion / shutter speed effects will be shot on 30P

Tips are needed, thanks.
 
Unless you have everything storyboarded out and know exactly which shots you need and are going to use, I'd recommend having them play the song through for the close ups. The only stipulation to that is if you're doing something unique/complicated/or not actually singing or playing, then you'd want to shoot it separately.

Do you want slo-mo for the water effects or just detail. If you're doing slow motion, from what I've read here, you'd want to shoot it in 60i with as high a shutter as you can get, however if you just want detail or a high shutter look there is no reason to not be in 24p, just up your shutter.

I'm assuming your AF = After Effects (AE) and not Auto Focus (AF).

Do some test shots and see what works best for you, just make sure not to get your camera wet. What is your location? Inside/outside? If it's inside are they going to be cool with having water flying everywhere? Are you using lighting? Make sure you don't get the lights wet or electrocute somebody.
 
Thanks TMY for the reply!

Let me start off with the shot list first; so you're saying that I should shoot up to the point where the singers sing so I'm not wasting camera roll? Or are you saying just film them even if there not singing.

I want slo-mo but not to the point where it is a over kill. I just want it slowed down enough for one to know that the water actually splashed up. I want to actually focus in on the water.

I'm actually shooting this all out side as I don't have a light kit so I feel if I shoot it out side it'll be better. I'm actually going to just use silks, and bounce cards and maybe some reflectors.

& Yes I meant AE (After effects)
 
If you want that slow-mo singing look (very common today) shoot 30p then slow it down to 80% in a 24p timeline
 
I'm saying do a few takes of the singer(s) doing the whole song, then if you feel you need more specific shots you can do those in individual takes. You never know when you might want a CU of the singer just rocking out.

There are a number of threads here for doing slow motion and using the 60i/high shutter gets really smooth slo-mo at only about %30 slowdown.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=137719
 
high shutter like 500 shud be fine to get the separate water droplets. u will however ned to ramp up lights. also backlight the drums so the water droplets show better.
 
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