Music Video Synchro issue!

[hillcity]

Hey guys, long time no post!

I directed a video over the weekend.

We shot on HVX, and the DP accidentally shot a synchro scene at 36 fps.

As if that's not bad enough, he forgot to switch on the mic for the audio playback reference.

So I have a slow scene with no reference tracks to synch up to a normal-speed track!

I've played with it by eye, and it can be done, but I was wondering if there's a quick fix out there. I tried some simple algebra (speeding it up by 150%), but that still doesn't look right.

Ideas?

Recap: I need a 36fps scene to look like a 24fps scene, and it has to synch with a normal-speed AIFF file. And changing the AIFF file is out of the question because I can't mess with the audio, and I also have a bunch of other scenes that were shot correctly and synch just fine.

 

[kgb]

Wow, how does a DP shoot 36 fps and not realize it? Can you say fired...

If you know the duration of the clip, it's possible that in Final Cut you can just change the speed until it matches up with the AIFF music file in Final Cut's timeline (provided that the session is set at 24fps) Just set both clips to start at 01:00:00:00, and then change the speed of your messed up video clip to match the end of the AIFF clip.

Last resort...you might have to just cut in and time things manually as needed for each cut. Or you can try to keep fudging the framerate until you get it almost synched up completely...just make sure it starts at the top in sync, and then ends relatively close.

Hey guys, long time no post!

I directed a video over the weekend.

We shot on HVX, and the DP accidentally shot a synchro scene at 36 fps.

As if that's not bad enough, he forgot to switch on the mic for the audio playback reference.

So I have a slow scene with no reference tracks to synch up to a normal-speed track!

I've played with it by eye, and it can be done, but I was wondering if there's a quick fix out there. I tried some simple algebra (speeding it up by 150%), but that still doesn't look right.

Ideas?

Recap: I need a 36fps scene to look like a 24fps scene, and it has to synch with a normal-speed AIFF file. And changing the AIFF file is out of the question because I can't mess with the audio, and I also have a bunch of other scenes that were shot correctly and synch just fine.

 

[AwakenedFilms]

I haven't done it, but I am pretty sure you can conform the frame rate in Cinema Tools and re-import it in a more palatable frame rate.

he shot t 36 over 24 right? can you conform the footage to play at 36fps? then export SCQ that is 36 over 60? and then reimport that to the 24 timeline?

It's late and I need sleep. The idea could be just a brain fart.

J

 

[Gaburbano]

NO, no no...first the camera cant be accidentally put into 36fps, so get rid of the DP, then reshoot...Since you shot it in 720P mode, cause that is the only mode that does VFR, you cant take away frames, cause it will be choppy and lousy. You'r right that you cant touch the audio.. So just reshoot, hhhmmm with a new DP..

 

[David Jimerson]

Well, it can be if you have it set to a scene file and then accidentally roll the dial.

But any experienced DP should have been able to see that the motion was off while shooting.

And yes, the chances of getting this to "look like" 24p without a quality hit are pretty low.

 

[hillcity]

yeah, the video turned out okay...
you can't tell it's out of synch in the NTSC version.

Check it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CawyHxPW5Kg

All the scenes against the pink were offspeed.

[for what it's worth, the off-speed stuff that i kept in makes her look GORGEOUS]

The DP is a friend of mine, and it wasn't an accident, more of a misunderstanding. He wanted us to shoot it at 36, and we talked about it, but the set was so hectic that he either forgot to change it, or...something. I don't know.

I learned A LOT on the video.

Wound up doing it by hand...post took FOREVER!

Thanks!