Music video shot with FS100 and Sony EX1

Jon Neely said:
After reading that, I really want to see the video!
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Actually no you really dont. Besides his next project will be miles better - most probably shot with an Epic using B cam footage from an Alexa!

HDRx would have nailed those windows ;-)
 
PabloOzzy said:
Actually no you really don't. Besides his next project will be miles better - most probably shot with an Epic using B cam footage from an Alexa!

HDRx would have nailed those windows ;-)
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Sorry to say buddy, but sarcasm usually fails on the internet and just comes across as you being a ass.

@Cuervo-May I see the actual video? There were some very harsh criticism from people who obviously woke up on the wrong side of the bed or have a problem that you own high end gear. I wanna get an opinion myself and see just what everyone's problem is.
 
I'm no pro, but I don't believe it had anything to do with his equipment, and the video received the same harsh criticism on vimeo.
 
@ Darkdeity9194 - Hmm I was going for dark sarcastic humour but clearly fell short, ass trumps class yet again.

While on the topic of class I will however say that you only need to look at the original posters comments when ARTnVIDEO made some very direct observations. Immediately after stating that all criticism was welcome he went into a tirade attacking the guy...then when a few others came in pointing out how bad it actually was he passworded the video.

I do also have to say to cuervo that although not everything has to be butterflies and Bokeh, when you add visuals to a song the main aim should always be to engage the audience to the extent that even if they dont care for the song - they watch it through to the end. Your visuals had me turn it off after 20 seconds or so and clearly I wasnt the only one. Not an ideal outcome for the client in my book. Sorry.
 
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Someone offers to share some of their work and because its not up to some peoples standards the pile up begins. I am questioning the need to hammer this to death. Good or bad someone created something they felt worthwhile. End of story.
 
Great observation, Mico. This entire experiment served several purposes. The raw material was, clearly, sub-par. But, it was a first draft version of something the customer requested. As you noted, I really find it rather sad that critics were more insulting than helpful. As you said, there is a way to give useful criticism. As any stage actor will tell you, anyone who places work before the public has to be prepared for the hecklers and disenfranchised. One bad performance does not define an actor. I must say that this video, of which I am not particularly enamoured, garnered more comments and attention than it deserved, as you can tell from the previous comments. I mean, clearly, it pushed some buttons, and continues with a life of its own...which I find rather silly. Oh well. On a different note, there are a lot of people who thought it was very entertaining. hah!...this whole thing continues to amuse.....great entertainment to read the continuing discussion. End of story.
PabloOzzy, thanx. I think you said the most valid comment to date. If the video doesn't support the music, it has failed. Curiously, despite the negativity it received here, many viewers have liked it...so, go figure. The project continues to evolve beyond the draft that was posted here. I think this particular forum isn't the right venue for this kind of material. I guess I have learned that..LOL
mico said:
Someone offers to share some of their work and because its not up to some peoples standards the pile up begins. I am questioning the need to hammer this to death. Good or bad someone created something they felt worthwhile. End of story.
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Not sure if you caught this link on another post here in the FS100 section:

http://vimeo.com/27580170

This dude has a lot of really interesting visuals, although I'm not sure I'd be game risking the sensor by 'whacking' with a $5k camera ;-) Either way I like how on this one he combines a one take live shot with other footage grabbed on the night to pull together a very nice music clip. I've always wanted to do some live gigs but figured it wouldn't cut it unless you had multiple cameras. This proves it can be done so I will have to bite the bullet and stake out some local pubs.
 
Cuervo, I understand your feelings on the criticism, but from your original post it seemed like you were cool with this being your final draft for the band. You justified the windows, when you could have said then, that this was a rough draft, and you were here to get helpful info on correcting the things you were unhappy with. You pretty much presented the video like
cuervo said:
I thought I'd share a music video I just finished up, using the FS100 and a Sony EX1. Both cameras were used with a Nanoflash. I also used stock footage on some shots. http://www.vimeo.com/28221419
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Finished means Finished. Again not trying to be rude, I gave my opinion, and you respond, then you go and edit your original response to me three days later with
cuervo said:
Ya gotta love your "can-do" attitude, artnvideo. Do you tell everyone who comes to you for help to take a flyin' leap? Since I've never seen you post any work, I can only assume you don't have customers. I guess you just sit back and criticize.
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If someone came to me for help asking for a music video, if the original shooting conditions were "Horrendous" I would have gave my imput on how to make the video shoot better for the band, and if they didnt understand the need to get them better footage, and they insisted on me giving them a video that was not up to my desired result for my work, I wouldn't push it as "a music video I just finished up" and expect positive criticism, because I already would have known the video was not the kinda of work I want to put out.

I'm done with this thread, I hope you can understand, but if not keep shooting, keep doing what you do!:Drogar-Happy(DBG):
 
ArtnVideo

Thanx. I mean that sincerely. Perhaps I'm to blame for not pointing out the "draft" version of this thing. So, I think we can agree to call this thread dead. It deserves to die.
 
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