Multiple wireless mics?

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stzasan

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I searched, but what do I need to use if I want to use multiple, IE, more than two, wireless mics. I just got one of the evolution series and it's cool, but what about those scenes where I've got four actors or so?
 
I'm curious how serious/sarcastic that comment is. I've got a project where I need to be able to record 4 channels of audio, and that really seems like the best solution. Plus, it gives me a second angle.

Is this a common solution?
 
if you have four actors it would be pretty expensive to buy four sets of g2 transmitter/receivers

you would be better off going with a boom mic, or maybe a plant mic like the sanken cub-01

or you can hire a sound guy with all the gear.

matthew
 
If you want four independent channels? Not as far as I know, but a second camera does make it simple. The 100B can sync time code.

You could use something like a Digi002 and record to protools. that would give uyo 8 tracks.
 
They are just having fun with you since it is such a basic question. You just use a mixer...or multi-track recorder. If you are unaware of a mixer then you really need to find/hire someone to help you with audio.

Good luck.
 
Actually, there are many different options for capturing as many as 10 (or more if you use Metacorder) descrete channels of audio. But the cost is extremely high. For example, you can get a Deva V which will capture 10 channels, and is an amazing recorder, and the one used on many if not most high end productions today. But, it will set you back at least $15,000 (used). Or the Cantar, which records 8 channels, and runs a little less (like $13,000).

A lower cost option that is starting to appear on many "pro" sound carts: A Mac, combined with a Motu Traveler and either Boom Recorder or Metacorder. I think the limit on this combo is 8 tracks, but I'm not entirely sure. But, be advised that the "pros" that are using this set up are still mostly using it as a back up to their Deva. Only a few have moved to this setup as their primary recorder.

Or you can do what most of us mere mortals do. Boom Right and all lav's left (or visa versa) and hope for the best. You will need a mixer to accomplish this. There are a couple of "baggable" mixers (Wendt X5 and DVMix6) that can handle this, or you can go with a mixing board (of which there are many that can handle this...stay away from the Behringer mixers...IMNSHO).

So, you actually have lots of options. Just depends on what your budget is.

Or, go with the best option -- hire someone to do your sound for you.

Phil
 
Mike,

Be careful when you say the 100B can synch timecode...you need to qualify that. It can synch timecode between cameras. It cannot be jammed from an external source (that I've heard of...though I know people are trying to figure out how to do it.) By external source I mean slate, TC recorder or TC generator. Nor can it jam to any of those devices.

Phil
 
Before you consider the Rolls...search the archives. I know that others that have used it have expressed opinions about it...mostly negative.

Phil
 
And back to the basic question: you need a separate radio transmitter/reciever pair using discrete channels for each radio mic. For four talents that means 4 pairs of G2:s, or whatever. The channels used must be chosen so that they do not interfere with each other ("banks" in ew G2 parlance). There are also digital systems capable of stereo transmission with one transmitter/reciever pair, but you can buy 5 sets of G2:s at the same price...

Recording this is another matter and was dealt with above. For the best possible post production possibilities you shoud record them on separate tracks, not mix them down on 2 tracks then and there. Which is much simpler, of course, needing only a 4 channel mixer, no 4 (or more) track recorder.
 
stzasan said:
Interesting...So there's no simple solution for multiply lavs??? That's almost hard to believe.
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its hard to believe questions like that still going on that board :-)
sorry how do you think they mix live in the studio - cameras not microphones .
do you have any clew ?
dud , buy some books about production audio
make some search on that board

definitely question of the month
 
ptalsky said:
Actually, there are many different options for capturing as many as 10 (or more if you use Metacorder) descrete channels of audio. But the cost is extremely high. For example, you can get a Deva V which will capture 10 channels, and is an amazing recorder, and the one used on many if not most high end productions today. But, it will set you back at least $15,000 (used). Or the Cantar, which records 8 channels, and runs a little less (like $13,000).

A lower cost option that is starting to appear on many "pro" sound carts: A Mac, combined with a Motu Traveler and either Boom Recorder or Metacorder. I think the limit on this combo is 8 tracks, but I'm not entirely sure. But, be advised that the "pros" that are using this set up are still mostly using it as a back up to their Deva. Only a few have moved to this setup as their primary recorder.

Or you can do what most of us mere mortals do. Boom Right and all lav's left (or visa versa) and hope for the best. You will need a mixer to accomplish this. There are a couple of "baggable" mixers (Wendt X5 and DVMix6) that can handle this, or you can go with a mixing board (of which there are many that can handle this...stay away from the Behringer mixers...IMNSHO).

So, you actually have lots of options. Just depends on what your budget is.

Or, go with the best option -- hire someone to do your sound for you.

Phil
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waist of time
 
Mike Caffrey said:
I'm curious how serious/sarcastic that comment is. I've got a project where I need to be able to record 4 channels of audio, and that really seems like the best solution. Plus, it gives me a second angle.

Is this a common solution?
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this the best answer i could find for that question relying on the person dosnt have clew about sound ,

is it common solution? - only if you dont have better one

SARCASTIC - thats the way i like it ,aha,aha :evil:
 
Petrus said:
Recording this is another matter and was dealt with above. For the best possible post production possibilities you shoud record them on separate tracks, not mix them down on 2 tracks then and there. Which is much simpler, of course, needing only a 4 channel mixer, no 4 (or more) track recorder.
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i never had even one production in my life asked for separate tracks ( exclude music recording) as a main recording , usually in real life ( not so armature films that you have all the time in the world to play on your computer) no one like to remix soundmixer mix from the field if it acceptable . only if something goes wrong the editors open the isos . time is money and if it wasn't like that the sound mixer profession was blowed with the wind and we were replaced by idiots who can record everything separate for the future mix in the post .
 
Hey Mungk, before you call Exile/Oleg pretentious, you should see his IMDB credits. He speaks with authority and experience (and quite a bit of opinion thrown in for good measure.) (Hey Oleg, my starmeter is higher than yours. ;-)

Phil
 
ptalsky said:
Mike,

Be careful when you say the 100B can synch timecode...you need to qualify that. It can synch timecode between cameras. It cannot be jammed from an external source (that I've heard of...though I know people are trying to figure out how to do it.) By external source I mean slate, TC recorder or TC generator. Nor can it jam to any of those devices.

Phil
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Yes, that's more accurate than the way i put it.
 
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