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I filmed this band performing outdoors on a porch it was a great show except it was very low lighting and the band was kind of spread out so there was alot of movement. I see alot of blurriness when I am moving with the camera. will motion blur get rid of that?

I know it slows down the rendering process so I don't want to use it if I don't have to. also the sound was really muffled and blown out from getting to close to the amp , is there away to lower the sound with out losing the quality of the sound?
 
Burn2Earn pro. said:
I filmed this band performing outdoors on a porch it was a great show except it was very low lighting and the band was kind of spread out so there was alot of movement. I see alot of blurriness when I am moving with the camera. will motion blur get rid of that?

I know it slows down the rendering process so I don't want to use it if I don't have to. also the sound was really muffled and blown out from getting to close to the amp , is there away to lower the sound with out losing the quality of the sound?
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Did you shoot with a low shutter speed or some setting that induced an even heavier motion blur? (Such as the XH-A1's Noise Reduction1.) 24 frames per second will also cause a motion blur, but that is a given.
Motion blur in after effects will not fix this. Motion blur in after effects is to make motion blur, not remove it. Also, there is no way to, "un-motion blur" the footage. (not to my knowledge.)

I am almost sure you can't make the sound, sound good. Particularly if your sound was peaking (in the red.)
There are some things you can do in professional programs to help, but I believe it will only go so far, and that isn't very far. The best, and in my opinion, only option when shooting live shows is to have a direct feed to the camera or a audio recorder; this will result in great quality audio, particularly when compared to the quality from your microphone that is peaking.
 
I am shooting in 24p , I have the Hvx200 and my shutter was 1/60 not to slow. but there is a lot of grain and I was hoping to take out as much as I can without making it to blurry. but as we all learn you can't get what you want.(lol) the low light is causing the grain to show.

I removed some grain and raised my exposure slightly to give it a little brightness I think that is the best I'm going to get. I have been able to make decent sound out of soundbooth but I don't remember how I got it that way and I didn't save it.

this thing is plagued!!
 
Yikes. Yeah, GottaBe is right...

Any way you can reshoot? Was this for a video, or was this a live shoot (with crowd and so on) on a booked night that they want record of? If you can reshoot, reshoot. More of a pain for them, but they'll be happier, and you won't be editing for days on something that cannot be fixed.
 
maybe some day I could reshoot this it was a live performance, great performance the setting is always there but that night was just really kicking..... thanks for all your help
 
Burn2Earn pro. said:
I am shooting in 24p , I have the Hvx200 and my shutter was 1/60 not to slow. but there is a lot of grain and I was hoping to take out as much as I can without making it to blurry. but as we all learn you can't get what you want.(lol) the low light is causing the grain to show.

I removed some grain and raised my exposure slightly to give it a little brightness I think that is the best I'm going to get. I have been able to make decent sound out of soundbooth but I don't remember how I got it that way and I didn't save it.

this thing is plagued!!
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Wait, wait; I believe we have misinterpreted you, you said grain. Now you wanting to use Blur makes sense. You must've had the gain over 0. Remember always shoot (if possible) at the lowest gain, if that means a negative number, than that applies. Excluding re-shooting you can help with some grain, but I believe it will make your image a bit soft.
...And that solution is what i've heard some people swear by, its at http://www.neatvideo.com/

If you search on this forum many people attribute their saved footage to it. Try the demo, see if it works for you.

Good luck!
 
thanks alot for that tip Gottabe. unfortunately I shot with a low shutter speed.... and a high gain so I think im screwed on the image but it still seems slow cuz of the shutter speed , is there anyway I could speed that up in after effects or something.... just to make it alittle more normal?
 
Burn2Earn pro. said:
I filmed this band performing outdoors on a porch it was a great show except it was very low lighting and the band was kind of spread out so there was alot of movement. I see alot of blurriness when I am moving with the camera. will motion blur get rid of that?

I know it slows down the rendering process so I don't want to use it if I don't have to. also the sound was really muffled and blown out from getting to close to the amp , is there away to lower the sound with out losing the quality of the sound?
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The 'sound' is most likely lost at this point. Getting 'too close' to the speakers, and not adjusting the recording level, means the audio has been clipped, and as such, there is no 'magic bullet'.

After Effects is not a very good audio editing program. You need to export your project in it's final 'locked' visual state, then audio edit in a program that does have various audio filters, which may allow you to mitigate in some way the audio...

Some 'fixes' include taking better recorded versions of the music, and replacing the live audio with the pre-recorded material. That may include adding 'location' noise to give it a better 'live' feeling.
 
Burn2Earn pro. said:
thanks alot for that tip Gottabe. unfortunately I shot with a low shutter speed.... and a high gain so I think im screwed on the image but it still seems slow cuz of the shutter speed , is there anyway I could speed that up in after effects or something.... just to make it alittle more normal?
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Don't know what you mean by 'slow'. Your stated shutter speed was 1/60th and your frame rate was 24p. Yes, if you move the camera quickly, or things in the shot move quickly, you will see 'blur'. There's not much you can do there either, relative to post processing.

In low light, one is required to use a 'wide open' aperture, and a 'slow shutter speed', and even 'boosting the gain', or in film using a high ISO value, accept the resulting 'noise' in the digital world, or the 'grain' in the analog world.

About the only thing one can do at this point is to 'stylize' the look. If it has 'grain' (either digital or analog) it may be better to stylize the grain with a 'add grain' filter.

If there's motion blur... perhaps add more for stylistic looks.
 
For the gain/grain - I second Neat Video. 99 bucks, I use it all the time. From 35mm to crappy DV, works like a miracle.

For the motion blur. This can *kinda* work. Get yourself RSMB (Reel Smart Motion Blur). Park yourself on a blurry frame, apply RSMB, and use a NEGATIVE value. I've found that this can reduce some motion blur. But keep in mind that RSMB doesn't know what you had in the first place, it's just an algorithm doing some guess work... so what you get is something that looks less blurry but has a fake, sharp, high-pass kinda look to it.

Sometimes what I do is degrain with Neat. Go over the top doing a negative RSMB. Then I render, reimport, and Re-motion blur at about half the intensity. The new motion blur will hel p cover up the fake sharpening effect, but won't be as intense as what you had before.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This really wont work if your motion blur is so intense that everything is just streaks and light patterns.
 
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