More frame rates confirmed

[Emanuel]

There's a post asking for confirmation of Panasonic Broadcast Europe's Forum about the frame rates.

http://panasonic-broadcast.com/inde...B3A&cmd=forum&forum=1&fo_group_id=4&locrepl=1

(...)I posted my reasoning. I suggest EVERY european user to post there in order to make 24P in Pal possible- Heck, I even said I would pay the $500 dolars upgrade Canon is asking if this is done on the HVX!

The Canon's upgrade argument is a good asking point.

 

[Gopher_Greene]

I hate to break in on this PAL discussion, but I'd still like to know the possibility of 120fps. Super smooth slow mo would be awesome.

 

[bgundu]

I hate to break in on this PAL discussion, but I'd still like to know the possibility of 120fps. Super smooth slow mo would be awesome.

Highly unlikely. Panasonic would reserve this kind of feature on higher end models. Besides, you wouldn't get to much footage on the current 8GB P2 card shooting at 120fps.:kiss:

 

[Flintstone]

Besides, shooting 60fps for a 24fps timeline is pretty good already.

Funny how we (humans) tend to want more when we already have plenty. HVX promises quantum leaps compared to what we had in the DVX. Yet, expectations are above and beyond what has been so far disclosed. 720p60, variable frame rates, 4:2:2, P2, have all never been seen before in a camcorder this size and price. Isn't that enough for a first step in accessible true Pro functionality in a prosumer price range?

 

[Shiloh Arts]

No, definatley NOT HDV - there are a number of threads floating on this and other forums - I think its "B&H Mess Up" here.

In short B&H stuffed up... The HVX200 is most definitely NOT HDV... There are threads in this forum that cover that topic....

Cheers, Nathan.

Since I've been like a mad dogg :laugh: reading it all, I'm perfectly aware of the topics that were covered. However, I just wanted to make sure Panny didn't pulled a fast one, like with the Blog... :grin:

 

[Zack Birlew]

Well, I'm sorry to ask a question that's already been asked in this same thread, but what exactly are all of these incremental frame rates going to do for us? I can understand a few of the lower ones for fast motion and 48p for general 24p slow motion but why do we need 36, 32, 26, 22, and anything lower than 12? Any particular examples?

 

[cici]

but why do we need 36, 32, 26, 22, and anything lower than 12? Any particular examples?

Panasonic explains it with the example of a human crowd moving fast and a single actor in the middle looking like moving normal. Or clouds flying faster etc.

Look in the VariCam brochure:

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webap...d=14569&modelNo=AJ-HDC27H&surfModel=AJ-HDC27H

@Fred: yes, 60p is good already, but PAL users get only 50p .... unless a higher rate is getting confirmed.

 

[Barry_Green]

I hate to break in on this PAL discussion, but I'd still like to know the possibility of 120fps.

Not a chance. It would be exquisite to have, yes -- but there's no infrastructure for it, so there certainly won't be any frame rate faster than 60 on the HVX200.

However, I'd start getting your requests in now for the VariCam II or other cams; as they move away from tape, and tape-originated/tape-based codecs, traditional restrictions like this may very well fall by the wayside...

 

[redindian]

Would we be able to do ramp-up and ramp-down? So the actor runs up superfast, jumps across in slow-mo, then lands fast.
Changing the frame rate from: 12fps to 60fps back to 24fps in a single shot without stopping the camera.

 

[soarprod]

Its easy to do that - shoot at 60 fps, and make your fps changes in a program like after effects. You speed up your 60fps footage to look like normal 24p ie 250%, and switch to 100% speed/60fps, then back to 250%/24fps.

Doing it on the fly probably will not be possible because of shutter speed settings/ they are set rates and it is not possible to do inbetween on the fps - 24,26,28...not 24,24.1,24.2,24.3 etc.

 

[Kennedy]

Would we be able to do ramp-up and ramp-down? So the actor runs up superfast, jumps across in slow-mo, then lands fast.
Changing the frame rate from: 12fps to 60fps back to 24fps in a single shot without stopping the camera.

No, Jan has confirmed no ramping capability.