Molly's Game

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I was somewhat curious to see how a writer like Aaron Sorkin would do as a director. Writers often feel agrieved that their vision, or how they saw their script is distorted or brought down by a director. Well, now what happens when a long time experienced writer gets to direct his own material? The script is of course based on a book, so that immediately sets certain parameters for the director, but it's not terribly limiting. Spoilers may follow.

I enjoyed the movie. It wasn't a masterpiece, but it was decent. It's interesting however to see that Sorkin the writer dominates over Sorkin the director. As a writer, Sorkin wrote for both TV and features, but primarily for TV. He even does a Masterclass (have not seen/taken it). What can I say - I think that his trademark snappy tit-tat dialogue that can work somewhat in TV drama format, does not work here. It's not as if it hasn't been done before in features - famously the Bacall/Bogart exchanges in The Big Sleep and some other of their films - but those exchanges were in a very specific context of double-entedres where what was going on under the surface was clearly meant with a tongue in cheek purposeful wink. In Molly's Game, by contrast, Sorkin uses it quite straightforwardly, like in the exchanges between Molly and her lawyer, the snappy thing is supposed to simply enliven the exchange of information... and it doesn't work. It doesn't work for many reasons, the primary two of which are (1) the information is quite important, quite complex, and meant to be absorbed, so doing a rapid-fire exchange is not suitable to absorbing complex info, unlike the Bacall/Bogart where it's a game and *just* a game. It goes by too fast with info that's too complex - won't work. Second (2), if you watch the Bacall/Bogart exchanges closely, the director and actors are quite careful about the tempo - I don't know if it was Hawks who engineered this, or the actors, but the exchanges speed is illusory, and achieved by slightly more closely spaced responses with less silent time (without stepping on each others lines) - but they don't *talk* very fast at all... that way, the audience can clearly have enough time to absorb the meaning, while still giving the impression of snappy speed. Sorkin is nowhere near that sophisticated. An additional problem is pure direction - the actors were too far away when delivering those kinds of snappy lines - a mistake by the director. Of course, it's easy to see why he made that mistake - in TV, you are fine with a ton of closeups, while in features you can't overdo that, otherwise it looks like TV and can be headspinning on a large screen in a theater with fast cuts between faces. But then don't write that way for the big screen! Miscalculated and badly executed.

I'm sure the dialogue looked good to Sorkin on the page, but as a director he couldn't pull it off. And he has no one but himself to blame - it's not like he can blame some *other* director, for his dialogue getting lost there. As I said, miscalculated, and badly executed, both. The need to convey info was ever present - look at how Sorkin resorted to *graphics* to explain the importance of certain bets and how he had to do that with both a voiceover and some handless card display, as if suddenly an instructional video was cut into a feature film. Major fail as a director. He had a problem - how to convey the importance and tension of the moment, of that critical hand, to an audience that may not be super familiar with the basics of poker? There are many ways of doing it, including not bothering with the technical details and letting the actors, you know, *act*, and supplement with Molly's VO to indicate the importance and tension (is how I think he should have gone), but I think Sorkin fumbled it here - too much and unnecessary to those who know poker, and not enough for the amateurs (for whom this goes by too quickly to fully absorb anyway) - Sorkin fell betwee two stools and the effect was poor.

There was also poor discipline with sudden inserts that were stylistically at odds with the prevailing aesthetic already established, as if Sorkin did pickups later, because he feared that otherwise points won't be understood. Not impressive.

Overall, the direction was not the greatest, but for a first time effort, much better than a ton of shlock coming out of many so called "established" directors. But that merely speaks to the generally poor levels of directorial skill out there these days, the bar has been lowered, and in this context Sorkin comes out okay-ish.

What rescued the movie was a generally absorbing story and some decent acting - Chastain was quite good, and Idris Alba was back to form (nice to see, as he did a lot of junk in recent years, and his acting suffered IMHO). I like the older Costner! Cera was decent as always, and generally the actors were the best thing here (as is quite often these days, acting is the best thing about subpar films). We live in times of good actors and poor directors.

The DP was a Danish woman, and I've only seen one other feature she did (The Girl On The Train), an interesting choice, I wonder what was behind it.

Overall, 3 stars out of 5 for me. Passable, enjoyable, but that's about it. YMMV.
 
Interesting. For me it was going in knowing that this would be in many ways a style exercise, with Sorkinisms abounding. I was almost expecting him to stick in a West Wing style walk & talk just for the fun of it. Given that, I equate it to watching a Whit Stillman or Wes Anderson film for certain types of affectations. Of course these were more writerly affectations than directorial, but still similar. So I didn't mind it as much as you seemed to have. I did find the film's structure a little ponderous at times and I had a big problem with the Costner scene at the end, which felt so dropped into the movie as almost an afterthought that I almost laughed out loud. That pop-psychology scene and the pat ending that followed it felt ridiculously hurried. But otherwise I found it better structured and nuanced than Steve Jobs, which was so rigidly framed and screamed the writer like a college play.

In the end I think I'd give it the same 3 out of 5 as you, but for slightly different reasons.

As for the photography, I wasn't a big fan. The DP seemed good at lighting spaces but not necessarily at lighting people. They just seemed to occupy whatever the lighting of the space was. I see this as an issue a lot these days. I don't think the lighting did Jessica Chastain any favors, and for the content of the character I think for much of the film it should have -- certainly for her skyrocketing success portion.
 
Interesting. For me it was going in knowing that this would be in many ways a style exercise, with Sorkinisms abounding. I was almost expecting him to stick in a West Wing style walk & talk just for the fun of it. Given that, I equate it to watching a Whit Stillman or Wes Anderson film for certain types of affectations. Of course these were more writerly affectations than directorial, but still similar. So I didn't mind it as much as you seemed to have.[...]

Right. But... don't you think that's the whole problem? I mean, yes, of course, we know we are dealing with Sorkin, who is a *very* successful TV writer (who also wrote some features). So in that sense, yes, of course you are right that we cannot help but think that a writer that successful will have a hard time letting go of what made him *so* successful as a writer. But that is why I was so interested in seeing if Sorkin The Director can overcome Sorkin The Writer. It demands that he let go of that which he knows (writing) that gave him so much success, and face the challenge of being a director with a mind free of the writer bias. I was interested in seeing if he could do it. He couldn't. He could not transcend his background. Just like Steven King couldn't. And so Sorkinisms abound - but what works in TV does not always translate into working in cinema, and he should have understood that. Which is why I don't find the Stillman and Anderson comparison apt - they are filmmakers, and their affectations are the affectations of a director. But Sorkin is not a director (before this feature) and so his affectatons are a writers affectations. It's the exact same situation as for DPs who try their hand at directing - and there are quite a few, in fact, it seems the majority of DPs harbor a secret (and not so secret) ambition to direct. And the question immediately becomes can you a successful *DP* transcend your DP background to see the bigger picture and different challenge of a *director*? The vast majority can't. And it's why the vast majority of DP's directing efforts are horrible failures. Films directed by them become showcases of DP work and not much else - they are too focused on the DP part of the process and don't see beyond that - they are too DP focused. And so with Sorkin the writer - he's too writer focused.

My point being, he was unable to transcend his writing background, just as many DPs are unable to transcend their DP background and deliver films that are focused on their area of expertise at the detriment of the "whole". And so "Sorkinisms abound", when they shouldn't - this is not a TV drama, and it demands an approach that shows understanding for the unique challenges of the medium and a particular story. Sorkin just was not able to step UP over his background. And that was the sense of my remarks when I wondered how Sorkin the writer would do as Sorkin the director, especially that he was directing his own material (based on a book).

As for the photography, I wasn't a big fan. The DP seemed good at lighting spaces but not necessarily at lighting people. They just seemed to occupy whatever the lighting of the space was. I see this as an issue a lot these days.[...]

Ha! Yes, I totally agree - I didn't want to go too far with this, as I already sound like a "kids these days" old man, but I do find that many DPs these days are just astoundingly insensitive to their role as artists vs lighting technicians. I mean, I thought that *maybe* Sorkin picked a woman DP because it was a film about a woman who has to fight her way in the face of belittling of expectations that women face, and a woman DP might be especially attuned to this, so that it would really come through. It didn't. It seems that she was content to "light the space" with no effort to bring anything extra into the role. Of course, I do think it is somewhat tricky in this case, because this is a film *based on real events*, so you can't be hamfisted with arty effects that don't belong in that kind of narrative... it's not an art film, it's not pure fiction with a ton of poetic license.
 
I guess the difference is that I don't particularly want him to overcome his Sorkinisms. That's a lot of what would draw me to a project in which he's involved. For example, while I found his HBO show The Newsroom to be self indulgent and preachy, those were exactly the reasons that I enjoyed the program. And I think your pigeonholing him as a TV writer is a bit unfair. He started successfully in theater and has written a number of artistically successful features. I don't think people considered the scripts of The American President or The Social Network to be particularly weak.
 
Sorkinisms are fine... where they belong. The Newsroom is a TV show, and Sorkinisms work there (I assume, I haven't watched it). The entire thrust of my first post was not that I'm opposed to Sorkenisms in principle, but rather that they don't work in a feature like Molly's Game, and I gave detailed reasons for why that is so. The problem was that Sorkin didn't realize that what worked in one context does not necessarily work in an entirely different context. I regret if I gave the impression that I "pigeonhole" Sorkin as just a TV writer - I did mention (repeatedly) that he wrote features as well, but what I meant (and thought I conveyed) was that his greatest *success* as a writer he found as a TV writer specifically, not that he was limited to *just* being a TV writer, which I thought was fair enough, as that's the bulk of his acclaim. Molly's Game is an instructive movie for those of us who like picking movies apart to see what makes them tick, so it's interesting to see how different people see the various elements here!
 
The main problem I had with this film is that the two leads look and sound nothing like their real-life counterparts. ( I find it hilarious when film titles state "based upon a true story", but leave out the fact that the film is based upon 0.1 percent of the true story )
 
I watched the Master Classes by Aaron Sorkin and David Mamet. I was surprised to hear them focus so much on plot, these two award-winning writers known for their characterizations. They sounded like B-grade action-movie hacks. Both emphasized the need for a central character who has a strong objective and an equally formidable obstacle. Mamet went so far as to say there is no character, only plot.

Sorkin said that characters may look and sound like people, but don't be deceived, they aren't. He said he likes to make all of his characters above-average in intelligence, no one is stupid. Also he said he writes his dialogue not to sound realistic but to sound good. I suppose those two decisions (smart people, snappy dialogue) are a major part of what leads to the sorkinic style (love this supercut).
 
I have not seen Mamet's Masterclass, but of course he has his famously characteristic dialogue, which works fine, most of the time. His focus on plot however, I do find somewhat illuminating - but more as to what I find problematic in his films... it explains a lot! The problem I have with his films is that he has a tendency to focus so much on plot that his characters become unrealistic and it takes away from the viewer's capacity to engage. He has a tendency to rely heavily on plot reversals and twists - over and over and over and over again... by the time the 435th twist comes along, I've long since disengaged, because you can only invest so much emotion into a situation only to have the rug pulled out from under you, if you do this too often, the viewers stops taking any twist seriously, because s/he knows it'll just reverse anyway soon enough, which soon defeats the whole purpose of maintaining tension and surprise. And then you just watch the mechanical plot with no engagement - FAIL. So it's funny to read that he thinks it's all PLOT, PLOT, PLOT and character is unimportant... because when you do that, then the character becomes *unrealistic* (how many times can a guy get fooled and you're supposed to believe he's smart, etc.) and thus kicks you out of the movie.

As to Sorkin's "write to sound good, not realistic", on a certain level of course he's right, if by realistic he means how people actually speak in real life. You can't just transcribe what people say in real life and put it on screen - you'd get a ton of "uhms, you knows, likes, a, hmm, etc. and it would sound terrible. So writing dialgogue that sounds good is a good idea, but as for realism, depends - for most films, you want the dialogue to *sound* realistic, even if it is not how people speak in real life, you certainly don't want it to sound stilted, awkward, written, and false. So I'd say "realistic", but not "actual speech from real life". It's called "movie realism", which is still realism, just not real life realism.

And that supercut is... something else, though not *all* of it is fair, like "you bet" and such, which are so common as an expression, that it's hardly just his or hard to avoid, or original.
 
I should clarify that what Sorkin and Mamet were saying was paradoxical. Seek plot, and you will get character also. Seek character, and you will wind up with neither character nor plot.

Of Mamet's work I've only seen The Verdict, The Untouchables, and Glengarry Glen Ross. I didn't suffer from plot-twist whiplash. Is that more in his later work?

Anyway, Sorkin and Mamet had much more to say, of course. A whole Master Class is five or six hours long. What they warned against was doing things like:

"I want to just make a movie about an interesting person named Jennifer." If the movie doesn't have an underlying skeleton of a clear objective and matching obstacle --- what Sorkin calls the movie's driveshaft --- then Jennifer will not be that interesting after all.

"Tom is smart, quirky, and mischievous. He was raised in the Bronx, and his father was real-estate developer..." Zzzzz. This sounds like you're building character. But in drama, the only way to reveal character is by the unfolding of the plot. Tom does something clever to get out of a tight spot. Therefore he is clever.

"I want to show the inside world of the Wall Street trading floor and the intersecting lives of all these interesting characters," or "I just want to make a road-trip movie with four people and all the interesting, episodic adventures they have along the way." Fine. But there must be a clear objective delineated in the first 15 or 20 minutes, and the obstacle must be so vast that it takes the whole movie to overcome it. You can "hang" all the interesting dialogue and scenery and insider insight on this framework, Aaron says, but you must have the driveshaft. The more crucial the objective and the more formidable the obstacle, the more forward motion the movie will have. (So don't have a hero who wouldn't mind driving to LA to see his cousin, with the obstacle of that he gets distracted easily by all the sights along the way. Make it that your hero must get to LA in 48 hours, with the obstacle that his car gets stolen and then the police are after him and ... you get the idea.) Obviously action movies aren't the only kind of movie they approve. You can have smoldering, dialog-heavy dramas, but the stakes should still be high.

It's mainstream teaching, nothing you haven't read in other books. In fact Sorkin says his go-to guide is Aristotle's Poetics, and a mentor was William Goldman. That's what struck me, how conventional their teaching is. I'm not criticizing it. I actually was encouraged by it, because I'm a fan of timeless principles.
 
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Sorkin's point on his dialog is much like Hitchcock's line that he didn't make slice-of-life movies, he make slice-of-cake. Sorkin likes a certain amount of artifice, or dialog that has a cadence, much like Shakespeare wrote in verse. Mamet was always another great example of this, and many actors have commented that they figured out how to perform their work when they found the musicality behind the sentence structure.

I wasn't trying to be critical of anyone else's opinion, just giving my take. Yours is certainly valid for you. I go to a production in which Sorkin is involved because I want those Sorkinisms, and I think they can work as well in cinema as they do in TV. The same is true of Mamet, and it certainly took a few films as director before Mamet stopped being his own worst enemy to Mamet the writer. In that regard I think Sorkin did okay in his first try.
 
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