MJPEG 70mbits+ 1080p settings

I have not had any luck trying to use 1280x720 and 4:2:2. I keep getting card errors so it could be my Class 6 card but I don't think that is it.

I have been able to get 1440x1080 with 4:2:2 to work but it is unstable.

Same here, but I tried a class 10 card also, although I guess it wasn't the best class ten card so I'll be trying again tomorrow.
 
Fine, thanks. LOL I knew you are the guy :-) What have you been preferring most? Higher 1080p resolution or 720p with higher bitrate per pixel?


Hey Emanuel,

Well the bigger image is appealing, however my eye's can see and my brain knows that 720p with higher bitrate per pixel is logical. 720P is smother at that bit rate, as it should at the equal bit rate given to 720 and 1080- 720 is just better compressed.


Pappas
 
I am afraid it is too much for the small GH1 or am I wrong tester13?

Not exactly. A week ago when I was testing various settings for 720P, I would get very high bit rates. Ones even higher than this. I was filming extreme stuff just to see the break point on the GH1 which recorded and passed through much higher data bandwidith, so that means that the path ways are there, quite possibly something else is at play here.

Look it these- The top five show performance tests to see maximum bandwidth peak.


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HERE ARE A COUPLE OF 1080P DONE TONIGHT IN THE SQUEEZE MODE 1440X1080P
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Pappas
 
What ISO were those last two at?

Do you have moving footage of those?

Hey Kholi,

320 on the two guys and the bottom was- I believe 800. I will check my notes later when I get back. The GH1 did really well that night, the better codec lets the GH1 show that it is very good in lowlight, and very clean too! Even in the Zacuto test they made a mention how clean the GH1 was. Just the codec was its weak link- No more!

However we knew that already!

Pappas
 
Hey Kholi,

320 on the two guys and the bottom was- I believe 800. I will check my notes later when I get back. The GH1 did really well that night, the better codec lets the GH1 show that it is very good in lowlight, and very clean too! Even in the Zacuto test they made a mention how clean the GH1 was. Just the codec was its weak link- No more!

However we knew that already!

Pappas

Damn man. That 800ISO at night looks quite killer at first glance.

High res stills or vimeo vid would be much appreciated.

Tomorrow, when I get the glass and PL mount, I'll be applying your "DVCProHD" settings and shooting with those versus the AVCHD "D" settings.

Hoping it helps out.
 
Damn man. That 800ISO at night looks quite killer at first glance.

High res stills or vimeo vid would be much appreciated.

Tomorrow, when I get the glass and PL mount, I'll be applying your "DVCProHD" settings and shooting with those versus the AVCHD "D" settings.

Hoping it helps out.

He's got grabs from that evening posted much bigger in another thread. I'm shocked at the lack of FPN.
 
So the new hack allows 1440x1080 raw video? Anyone try it with a Kowa or Sankor 2x with 1440x1080 and ending up with a 2.35:1 in nice raw instead of the typical 3.56:1 squeezed from a 16:9 native camera?
 
Its interesting to see that all the deep focus shots are pushing the data rates up
Shouldn't be surprising; the more that's in focus, the more sharp detail that's in the frame, and the higher the bitrate necessary to properly encode it.

We learned early on that the thing to avoid with the original GH1 was a wide deep-focus shot, because the codec just couldn't handle all the detail. With the new GH13, tester13's given the codec all the bandwidth it needs, so now wide deep-focus shots look spectacular, but they definitely drive the bitrate way up!
 
Shouldn't be surprising; the more that's in focus, the more sharp detail that's in the frame, and the higher the bitrate necessary to properly encode it.
Exactly like that.

EDIT -- The GH1 smaller sensor size has been an add-value from the bone for minimizing the issue and aliasing problems associated to the reading of a higher res sensor used @ full format (5D Mark II).
 
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Man Pappas, you are killing it. Can you upload something to vimeo?


Hey Issac,

I'm planning to get something up, most likely vimeo..


Damn man. That 800ISO at night looks quite killer at first glance.
High res stills or vimeo vid would be much appreciated.
Tomorrow, when I get the glass and PL mount, I'll be applying your "DVCProHD" settings and shooting with those versus the AVCHD "D" settings.
Hoping it helps out.

Hey Kholi

Soon I hope

This camera does dam good at 800ISO.

PL mount and this camera. A Marriage made in heaven. I would love to get some Hawks on that PL mount. Jesus that would make for killer images


He's got grabs from that evening posted much bigger in another thread. I'm shocked at the lack of FPN.

I posted two large grabs in this thread..

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=2017000&postcount=93



Pappas
 
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No, MJPEG has only ever been 30fps

No, MJPEG has only ever been 30fps

AVC, was 25p 1080p and 50p 720, PAL cameras.

There was tests for mjpeg to 24/25p, but they were skipping
 
Yep I read that within ptool (i've also been following the testing since the start but only now decided to play with it).

I always thought that the mjpeg mode was 720x50fps for a Pal camera, I could be wrong though as I think I only ever shot one thing on it before deciding that it was a useless addition to the camera.... How wrong was I.
 
Ryan, there was some tests

Ryan, there was some tests

to go with new fps, xfps in the ptool I think, but the 50fps was locking as I remember. The original mjpeg has always been 30fps 720p, pal and ntsc.
 
Its interesting to see that all the deep focus shots are pushing the data rates up

Shouldn't be surprising; the more that's in focus, the more sharp detail that's in the frame, and the higher the bitrate necessary to properly encode it.

We learned early on that the thing to avoid with the original GH1 was a wide deep-focus shot, because the codec just couldn't handle all the detail. With the new GH13, tester13's given the codec all the bandwidth it needs, so now wide deep-focus shots look spectacular, but they definitely drive the bitrate way up!


Yes that was the point of my post.

Whats also ironic is that all the images that threaten the codec with high data rates are all images that we would normally see from small sensor CCD cameras.

The shallower dof images that brought us to vDSLR's in the first place are the ones that threaten the codec least.

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I have been shooting on pappas' settings, first ones, for 720p. I updated, same settings, except next time I ticked 422 and left avc alone.

Out of 4 cards, a class 4 and 3 class 6's, only one class 6 worked, and it wasn't a transcend, it was a generic make.

Till now I get about 4 min of clip time without hiccups, using kit lens, IS on or off, 14mm wide, all the way to f22 on a bright and sunny day.

I haven't tried any class tens, I'm kinda scared to update if I hit a sweet spot. Does messing with avc settings alter anything as far as bandwidth goes?
 
So, finally got my hands on a 16gb Panny class 10 today and it works like a charm. 4:2:2 720p MJPEG which stopped on my class six after 10 seconds and froze a kingston class 10 now records for 3 minutes, 40 seconds, no problem.

These were the settings, with 4:2:2 ticked. Thinking of trying higher res, now...


QUALITY SETTINGS [ 384, 330, 300, 276 ]
TABLE SETTINGS [ 24, 24, 24, 24 ]
This mode give you a glorious 720P at a very high bit rate.
 
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