I started a project in 24p (F5) due to multi-cam shoot where the other cam was on 24p and this was the proposed direction. This project still needs to be finished. I have done several other projects more recently in 24p advanced (F6). I just did a short in 24p (F5) and for the first time I really saw the difference between the two. Like many on this forum, I prefer 24p advanced. My question: with multi-format editing now available, what are the issues I will face if I finish the initial project in 24p advanced?
midstream jump from 24p to 24p advanced?
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Well, no response on this yet. When I first tried to merge the two formats, I had a heck of a time with pixelated sequences on the timeline. I suppose I'll try to crack the code on this myself by running some additional tests, though if anyone has gone through this, would like to hear about it.
You shouldn't be seeing much of a difference between them if you're playing them back from the tape, and if you do, 24pA should be jumpier and strobier.
If you take them both into an NLE and remove the pulldown, you shouldn't see any difference at all.
Any differences you're seeing probably have nothing to do with it being 24p standard and 24pA; it probably has to do with the scene file settings (gamma, etc.) between F5 and F6. The frame rate is only one of the many settings; "F5" is not synonymous with "24p standard," and likewise "F6" is not synonymous with "24pA."
The scene file wheel is there to be a tool for you to save your own preferred combinations of settings; the defaults are simply common settings set by the factory -- and there are differences other than frame rate between the factory defaults of F5 and F6.
If you're editing with an NLE which understands and removes either type of pulldown, the pulldown you use doesn't matter*; once it's removed, whether standard or advanced, the footage will be identical between the two in terms of frame rate. (FCP is the weakest in this regard; you have to jump through Cinema Tools hoops to get standard pulldown removed.)
So, at identical settings -- gamma, color, shutter speed (very important) -- where the only difference is one is 24p standard and the other is 24pA, you will not see any difference between the two once the pulldown is removed. And the difference you'll see between them before you remove the pulldown is, as I said above, that 24pA may be strobier.
*But for the sake of being less taxing on your processor, you should shoot 24pA if you want to edit as 24p, which you should want to do with 24p material. And you should never shoot 24pA if you want to edit as 60i ("29.97").
If you take them both into an NLE and remove the pulldown, you shouldn't see any difference at all.
Any differences you're seeing probably have nothing to do with it being 24p standard and 24pA; it probably has to do with the scene file settings (gamma, etc.) between F5 and F6. The frame rate is only one of the many settings; "F5" is not synonymous with "24p standard," and likewise "F6" is not synonymous with "24pA."
The scene file wheel is there to be a tool for you to save your own preferred combinations of settings; the defaults are simply common settings set by the factory -- and there are differences other than frame rate between the factory defaults of F5 and F6.
If you're editing with an NLE which understands and removes either type of pulldown, the pulldown you use doesn't matter*; once it's removed, whether standard or advanced, the footage will be identical between the two in terms of frame rate. (FCP is the weakest in this regard; you have to jump through Cinema Tools hoops to get standard pulldown removed.)
So, at identical settings -- gamma, color, shutter speed (very important) -- where the only difference is one is 24p standard and the other is 24pA, you will not see any difference between the two once the pulldown is removed. And the difference you'll see between them before you remove the pulldown is, as I said above, that 24pA may be strobier.
*But for the sake of being less taxing on your processor, you should shoot 24pA if you want to edit as 24p, which you should want to do with 24p material. And you should never shoot 24pA if you want to edit as 60i ("29.97").
No. The point of removing pulldown is that you reconstruct the original progressive frames.
Note: never, ever deinterlace. It's not the same thing.
Note: never, ever deinterlace. It's not the same thing.