microphone to dvx100 or to mixpre+h4n..differences?

giu

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hi,
i need an advice. I'm in the mood of shooting a short with my panasonic dvx100 and sgblade adaptor. So i'm concerned about audio du you think is there a lot of difference on sound quality between an oktava hypercardioid connected directly to the dvx100 and an oktava hypercardioid connected to a mixpre mixer and to a zoom h4n sound recorder? I don't know if to buy the mixer and h4n or not...and if i only use the oktava with mixer without external sound recorder? a lot of difference?

thanks so much


j.
 
Well, the pre-amps in the DVX are pretty good. The MixPre will be a slight improvement.

Honestly, I'd go ahead and get the MixPre and the H4n. You can then send the MixPre to both the DVX and the H4n at the same time and you'll be able to listen to the difference. The H4n will make an effective double-system recorder, and is very clean when used with a line-level feed (the pre-amps in the H4n are improved over the original H4, but still are not up to par with the DVX or the MixPre).

The other difference between recording with the camera or recording with the Zoom... sync sound vs. non-sync. Recording to an external recorder can add some flexibility in movement on set. But it adds another process to your post-production workflow, as you will have to line up the audio from the Zoom with your DVX footage. So be sure to slate everything as you shoot.
 
Either way the MicPre is awesome. It has 2 limiting stages and is virtually unclippable. I had mine modified by Greg Winter to be able to attach it to the bottom of my camera and it never comes off. It will improve the sound going into any camera that takes a line level feed. With the ccamera you will get 16bit recording. With the H4n you will get 24 bit recording.
 
The only issue with the H4n and MixPre, is that the MixPre limiter kicks in at +18dBu in its stock position. The H4n clips at +18dBu.
So that means you need to adjust the limiters on the MixPre which is not easy to fine tune (one of my few complaints that the 302 does much MUCH better with)

Directly to the DVX out of the MixPre is good, and having a H4n gives 24-bit, and a backup should a cable get tripped during a shot.
 
If spending some $ is not an issue then I would definitely buy the package. Safety recordings are Very important and having at least on recording the the sound person is in control of is also very significant. 24 bit is nice but the DVX really does sound pretty good. I also completely agree about the MixPre's limiters. Once you set them up for your recorder they are basically clip proof so that crazy actor who just starts screaming randomly won't trash the take.

If your using Final Cut Pro, then you might want to look at a plugin/ applicaton called PluralEyes. It automates the post syncing of double system sound.
 
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If spending some $ is not an issue then I would definitely buy the package. Safety recordings are Very important and having at least on recording the the sound person is in control of is also very significant. 24 bit is nice but the DVX really does sound pretty good. I also completely agree about the MixPre's limiters. Once you set them up for your recorder they are basically clip proof so that crazy actor who just starts screaming randomly won't trash the take.

If your using Final Cut Pro, then you might want to look at a plugin/ applicaton called PluralEyes. It automates the post syncing of double system sound.


Dude.... PluralEyes looks like a Godsend! I'll have to check it out.
 
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