Micro Gimbal for GH4, BMPCC, A7s - $699 USD

macgregor said:
I got the Pilotfly H1+ today, it only took 1.5days from Hong Kong! wow!
I need some help dialing settings with the PID settings, this stuff is too complicated for me. The movi and ronin were easy to set up. So far I've tried the NX1 with bad results (due to bad settings on PID for sure) and an old Nex5 which amazing results (and I'm sure it can be dialed better).
Where can I get step by step PID config tutorials for dummies?
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* The link dusty gave you in the previous page is a good one
* If you can do it from the phone (like this), it's a much faster process than over USB
* With the N4000 I found it really difficult to find good PID settings, the trick for me was going for a very small I
* To give you an idea, my current settings with the N4000 at full load (1Kg) are (15 0.01 25) (25 0.02 12) (15 0.01 25), with power 150, 110, 60.
 
dustylense said:
Every example I've seen of the Came single shows micro jitters when the camera is moving at a decent speed. Things that I would want to dial out with PID software. The fact that they say going into the PID's will void any warranty and seeing every video with micro jitter makes this device an absolute don't buy for me.

I filmed this video on the N4000 a couple months back. All the parkour stuff was filmed on one day and all the city stuff filmed guerrilla style the next day. So any shots showing movement was the Gh4 with 12-35 on the N4000. Many shots zooming in from 12 to 25 on the N4000 without any adjustment made to the gimbal.
I filmed it and handed it off. Did not edit and did not grade. I suggested a grade, but they took it elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNh49WmPCAI
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The content of the video is very good.
 
The app just makes it faster, because you don't have to unplug-replug every time you test a new value (testing with a wire hanging out is possible but not confortable).
 
Have been renting the Nebula 4000 Lite since Friday, and enjoying.
Definitely whet my appetite for a 3-axis gimbal, though very likely NOT the Nebula 4000 Lite.
Using with a Sony a7S & FE28/2.

Balancing was not *that* hard, I'd describe it more as annoying.
Seeing the adjustment process required allen wrenches lead me to commit to a 1-body/1-lens combo for the duration.

I do find transportation of the device awkward.
There does not seem to be any safe way to transport the gimbal on a strap or in a camera bag with/without camera mounted.
Having to unmount/remount camera is annoying as the tripod socket screw does not stay in place so I have to rebalance the mounting plate each time.
So I carry my camera in it's bag, and the gimbal in its case, then assemble to shoot / disassemble after.

Also, walking with the camera mounted but device off.. (to conserve battery) feels like I need to 2-hand it for safety (not a great way to walk around).

Are any of the competition any better in this regard?
It seems like a "lock mode" should be implemented such that all 3 axis could rotate into a safe position and lock for transport.
And if a device could implement that in a way you can leave the camera mounted.. you could put the whole thing in your regular camera bag..
 
Just got my Came-Single today with the internal battery.

I was previously using a Came-7800 and I like the usability of this unit a lot more than the standard 2 handle gimbals. I was never quite comfortable with the camera sitting at a lower level than where my hands were. The motors seem more stable now and less twitchy.

Out of the box, balanced a Sony RX10II, and it seemed to be running great. Very smooth so far, although I haven't tested fast movements like running outside yet. As was mentioned earlier, the handle is a bit akward to hold, but with the side or bottom threads you can attach additional handles or accessories. I threw mine on top of a monopod and it felt pretty good, especially having the option to move your hands around more and not be stuck on the metal handle.

I DID have an issue with the panning as mentioned by a poster before. But it would only occur if I manually used the joystick to pan all the way to the right, then it would have some issues moving back all the way to the left. I never had any issues with the pan motions during natural use in mode 1, so I'm not sure if this is something that will get in the way of my regular use. Turning it off and then back on fixes this as well.

I'll grab some video this week when I get a chance to mess around with it more.
 
Merlando said:
Just got my Came-Single today with the internal battery.

I was previously using a Came-7800 and I like the usability of this unit a lot more than the standard 2 handle gimbals. I was never quite comfortable with the camera sitting at a lower level than where my hands were. The motors seem more stable now and less twitchy.

Out of the box, balanced a Sony RX10II, and it seemed to be running great. Very smooth so far, although I haven't tested fast movements like running outside yet. As was mentioned earlier, the handle is a bit akward to hold, but with the side or bottom threads you can attach additional handles or accessories. I threw mine on top of a monopod and it felt pretty good, especially having the option to move your hands around more and not be stuck on the metal handle.

I DID have an issue with the panning as mentioned by a poster before. But it would only occur if I manually used the joystick to pan all the way to the right, then it would have some issues moving back all the way to the left. I never had any issues with the pan motions during natural use in mode 1, so I'm not sure if this is something that will get in the way of my regular use. Turning it off and then back on fixes this as well.

I'll grab some video this week when I get a chance to mess around with it more.
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This is exactly the setup i am plannig to go with. did you set the rx10m2 AF on or use manual focus with the lens set to infinity?
 
I was using AF when testing, which works decently. It's pretty slow, so if you walk up to a target from far away it will take a couple seconds to adjust the focus onto it. Will work okay for some situations, for other shots I will set a manual focus point.
 
Merlando said:
Just got my Came-Single today with the internal battery.

As was mentioned earlier, the handle is a bit akward to hold, but with the side or bottom threads you can attach additional handles or accessories.
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The Came Single is no longer a single handed gimbal once you have added rods and extra handles to make it more usable. Why not just step up to Came-TV Mini instead?
 
Issue with Came Single

Issue with Came Single

If anyone is interested, here is an issue i am having with the Came Single V2 (Battery enclosed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLJXrRokUWo

As you can see once i pan all the way to the left, i can no longer pan to the right beyond 5-10 degrees. Came tried to help, then stopped replying for a week, only the threats of a youtube video reviewing the product and the poor support got them to start replying again. Asking for the same info i already gave them ten times.
 
Hey guys, I've seen people mention this gimbal already (MinisturdyFlight) on the thread but not seen any examples, here is just a quick test of my sister walking my dog.

Download original to see micro-vibrations etc...

https://vimeo.com/135594926

drobox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9dp48ilmi2lw4eu/sturdyflightwalkingtest.mp4?dl=0

Interested in people's thoughts, I feel quite happy with it, my setup is just over 1.2kg.

(Pocket Cinema Camera, MFT Speed Booster, Tokina 11-16 2.8, Hoya IR Cut and Genus Eclipse ND Fader.)
 
VMT said:
The Came Single is no longer a single handed gimbal once you have added rods and extra handles to make it more usable. Why not just step up to Came-TV Mini instead?
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While I never specifically used the Came Mini, and acknowledge that the Came-7800 is like double the weight, I'm just not a big fan of the 2 handed gimbal where the camera sits below your hand position. It seemed like a pain in the ass to juggle the rig with one hand while trying to fiddle with the settings or focus on the camera. And yes, I'm aware the Mini can go inverted as well.

The Single isn't unusable at all as a single handed gimbal. It is definately usable and will work in the type of shots it is required for. As others have mentioned about these type of designs, the footage will get a bit more shaky once your arm is tired, so you're probably not going to be using it single handed with no support for a full day. I just like that there is the OPTION to add another handle or a monopod as needed, or still just reverting back to the single hand function. Seems to work better for how I shoot and how I want a gimbal to fit into that.
 
Got my CAME-Single a week ago, and messed with the Basic tab PID settings (in SimpleBGC) in an attempt to reduce the bobbing effect when walking forward. I took a screenshot of one Profile before I messed with the values, but failed to do so with the other Profiles. Does anyone with a CAME-Single have those default values?

And yes, I know that CAME warns that messing with PID values voids the warranty. I've already asked them for the factory default PID settings for each mode, but they haven't yet provided them.
 
Can anyone here help with a nebula system with a lightweight setup? I'm trying to fly a GH2 with 14mm lens, but even some settings for a GH4 flying the lumix 14mm f2.5 would be helpful. Even one better would be if you could send me the actual profile files for the 3 modes via email.

Thanks! I'd really love to get this dialed.
 
So are these single handle gimbals still limited to super light weight cameras? Currently rocking the D7100 and D750 but was looking into some sort of gimbal. As a one man crew usually, the pistol gimbal seems nice as its easy to store and carry, however usually they are limited to mirrorless cameras. Been thinking of picking up a gh4 or maybe a cheap mirrorless just so I have a camera to use one of these gimbals (and 4k, slow motion, and actual luts that work since I can't find any for nikon).
 
I've been testing the Pilotfly H1+ over the last 3 weeks.
Overal is fantastic. No one looks at you. Super compect and light.


My only issue is that compared to a Movi m10, footage sometimes is a little wobbly. It might have to do with PID settings but I am unable to improve those settings by myself.
 
I switched today from the heavy RX10 and am using the RX100iv now, and it makes all the difference in the world with my Nebula 4000. One problem though is that the location of the 1/4-20 on the RX100 means I have to dismount the camera from the Nebula to change the battery, until I figure out a work a round mounting solution.
 
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