FS7: LUTs in HDMI

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LennyLevy

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I recently rented my FS7 to someone who only had an HDMI monitor . We were shooting SLog3 Cine EI and could not get the menu to allow a LUT in HDMI out unless we were also burning one in on SDI 1. I hardly ever use HDMI. Does that make any sense? We were shooting 1920x1080 30P.

Lenny
 
LUT's in HDMI work.

You need to have both the HDMI MLUT and SDI2 MLUT set to ON in the Monitor LUT menu.

Classic Sony...
 
morgan_moore said:
It makes sense. LUTs on the FS7 do not work.

If you want a lut get an external monitor with luts :)
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I'm not sure what problems you have experienced with your camera, but MLUTS have worked perfect and exactly as designed every time I have used them on my FS7. As Liam says, the HDMI and SDI 2 outputs are ganged together and I see no problemw with that limitation. How much processing power do you expect in a $7K camcorder? The the output of the viewfinder and SDI 1 allow two further independent MLUT choices. Lots of options and possible configurations. It has all worked perfectly on my camera.
 
I assume my problem is some kind of a menu setting conflict issue and I also assumed it was some kind of common gotcha that you guys would know. I use MLUTs in SDI all the time but rarely if ever use an HDMI monitor. (I also don't know what Morgan is talking about.) In setting it up for a rental last night I found that the menu button simply would not allow me to stop on the HDMI LUT ON OFF switch, it would just jump over it.

The HDMI-out is working and as I recall is set to ON in the Video OUTPUT menu . Not sure about the OUTPUT FORMAT menu. Frankly I was quite tired when setting this so may have goofed up somewhere . I'll check when the camera is returned in a few minutes.

However, if SDI MLUT and HDMI MLUT are ganged together shouldn't I have seen the HDMI LUT setting change when I turned it on for SDI-2? That sounds like what I'm used to seeing but it wasn't happening last night. It only changed when I turned on SDI-1 which of course would mean a burned in LUT.
 
I try not to get involved in troubleshooting other people's problems when there are so many settings and combinations of settings that must be known and checked. And MLUTs and monitoring in general are one of those. Usually it is too late to know what the settings actually were -- so it is a lost cause unless someone actually has their hands on the camera right then and there. My advice would be to setup the camera at home and try to recreate the same conditions when you don't have the pressure of a real shoot breathing down your neck and you can really work through the problem until you solve it. If it happened once it is bound to happen again. Is it a camera problem or operator error? You'll find out.

Also don't forget about the power and simplicity of keeping an ALL file stored on the utility card that will allow you to reset your camera in a matter of seconds back to your own personal default settings. An ALL file would save a lot of people a lot of wasted time and frustration if they'd take the time to save one ahead of time. I don't understand why more people don't use them. I have several stored on cards for all of my cameras so that I can quickly switch between different setups. I also try to make it a habit if storing an ALL file for each important shoot so I have a permanent record of exactly every setting on the camera I was using.

Lastly, is there any chance you had the DISTORTION COMPENSATION menu to be set to “AUTO”?
 
Just got the Camera back

BINGO Mystery Solved!!

VIDEO>OUTPUT Setting>HDMI TARGET - was set on Recorder. Needs to be on Monitor .

Must confess I have never had the slightest idea what that setting was for. It's been set on Recorder for as long as I can remember and I never paid it any attention.
Anyone know what it does besides hobble a LUT?
 
That's odd; all TARGET>Recorder/Monitor does is toggle between a clean feed and one with all the VF info on it. It must be a communication issue between the camera and monitor or a bug in the firmware??

Anyway, glad you're sorted now.
 
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