"lost" season finale

More than pretty good: that was the best two hours of television of seen in years. I just wish some of the stuff leading up to it hadn't been so lackluster. But wow...just brilliant.
 
Policar said:
More than pretty good: that was the best two hours of television of seen in years. I just wish some of the stuff leading up to it hadn't been so lackluster. But wow...just brilliant.
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I completely agree... Here is my theory of what everything is and it starts with one word: 'MOMENTO'

Momento was a crappy movie that was made interesting and held the audiences attention because of the way the story unfolds.

The same might said to be true now for LOST. Simply put, by showing us the characters today, and then slowing showing us who they were, now showing us the final stages of them on the island and flashing forward to them in the real world after they get off the island, they tell a simple story... Here are these people, here they are on the island, here they are at home, but by telling it the way they do everything about these people is a mystery.

It is truly an amazing show.
 
Wait... ok...

The Lost Experience, which is considered FACT in the LOST world had that Oceanic went out of business... Yet Jack was flying on his Gold Ticket every week...

Even the Oceanic (fake) website says that the airline went out of business http://oceanic-air.com/


What does this mean?

There is a splinter in time coming up... maybe it has to do with the hatch exploding.

This has to be the situation because he can't be on oceanic, his father can't be alive... there has to be some way to explain it.

Damnit... this is after 16 hours... I can't wait 9 months
 
Ah yes, the sjuzet versus fabula thing... Takes me back to intro to film and all the "fun" that class entailed.

If you want to get deeper into bullshit, take psychoanalytic film theory into account. There's this pretty good book about David Lynch's movies and how they relate to psychoanalytic film theory. The author posits that Lynch divides the world into two realms, one of "desire" and one of "fantasy" rather than having a traditional story that mixes the two to move the story forward ceonventionally--and that's why they feel so powerful and msyterious. Lost does the same thing but in a more conventional framework, I am convinced...which is why it is awesome.

Also, I'm not discussing this any more and I don't want to hear that theory is worthless since it's not...

Just saying, Lost has a pretty awesome unconventional narrative structure, definitely.
 
Jeremy Ordan said:
This has to be the situation because he can't be on oceanic, his father can't be alive... there has to be some way to explain it.
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I too noticed that Jack's father was alive in "the future." Perhaps the scenes in "the future" were actually flashbacks to the week when Jack was with the Others, and his actions were unaccounted for. Suppose during his resistance to their manipulation he had one of those "island hallucinations" and that's all those "glimpses of the future" are.

Don't forget people are still having Walt hallucinations...
 
Oh you non-Super Lost fans... let me help you through this. First of all, everything in the "flashforward" was very vague. They never *show* his father, therefore they have lots of wiggle room in that department. Maybe he always refers to his father when he's completely wasted and the other doctors are used to it by now so they don't correct him. As far as the Oceanic *golden passes* flights, pft! Not a big deal. They could be flying on another airline that absorbed the Oceanic company and that company offered the survivors those tickets (probably to generate publicity for their airline). Lots of wiggle room. Don't assume anything. Remember, we're talking about Lost here.

As for the decision they made. Wow. That was a HUGE decision. They totally blindsided me. Everybody expected the surprise to be on the island. Who knew it would be in the flashback. Or flashforward. Or flashsideways. They set us up for 3 full seasons to fast forward through those boring crap flashbacks, making them mind-numbingly boring for the sole purpose of blindsiding us in the Season 3 Finale! Bastards!

The question is. Did they jump the shark? Are they going to do something cool with this, or is the island now going to turn into the Prequels? (Where we already know where they're all going so who the hell cares??) I hope they have a plan.

Poor Charlie. His death was totally forgotten by the time the show ended. Who cares about him? Who did care about him?

Oh, and this whole thing about the show originally being 4 seasons or 3 or 5 or whatever? That's all bull. No network wants to program a show that only lasts four seasons. Especially when they're paying as much as they do for something like Lost. They want a show to go on as long as possible. The magic number for seasons is 7, because that's when you start getting who contracts for syndication. So, as a point of reference, that's the goal for each TV executive or producer. Program a show that will last 7 seasons cause that's when you'll really start making money.
 
Actually the magic number for a show is 5 seasons. In the past you were only able to syndicate after 100 episodes which is typically 5 seasons. That is why you see shows celebrating their 100th episode. Lost will break the 100 episode mark in season 5 as well (they will finish with something like 119 episodes).
 
No, the magic number was 65, which allowed a different show to be aired each night, five nights a week, for 13 weeks. So, three seasons usually had you covered.


Shows celebrate 100th episodes because people like nice, round numbers full of 0s.
 
David Jimerson said:
No, the magic number was 65, which allowed a different show to be aired each night, five nights a week, for 13 weeks. So, three seasons usually had you covered.


Shows celebrate 100th episodes because people like nice, round numbers full of 0s.
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I wasn't aware of that. I have also heard and read 100.
 
c.g._eads said:
The question is. Did they jump the shark? Are they going to do something cool with this, or is the island now going to turn into the Prequels? (Where we already know where they're all going so who the hell cares??) I hope they have a plan.
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LOST is the one show that I really believe wont jump the shark. I think the writers/producers have a plan and from day 1 they had an idea where they were going to go. Ultimately we are just all along for the ride but they know where they are going.

The next 9 months are going to be tough
 
"Jumping the shark" is typically a desperation move meant to shore up ratings. It often happens when characters get married (Mork & Mindy, Who's the Boss, Scarecrow & Mrs. King), or a new "cute" character added (Cousin Oliver, the little girl who was on Cosby after Rudy entered her awkward and goofy puberty years (but, by the way, came out of it just fine)).

Not sure Lost has done that yet, but the Kate/Sawyer hookup was a warning sign.

Probably what's a bigger problem with the show are its 1000 unresolved questions. They seem to have swept the entire DHARMA initiative under the rug in one fell swoop without resolving many of the question which surrounded it.
 
David Jimerson said:
"Jumping the shark" is typically a desperation move meant to shore up ratings. It often happens when characters get married (Mork & Mindy, Who's the Boss, Scarecrow & Mrs. King), or a new "cute" character added (Cousin Oliver, the little girl who was on Cosby after Rudy entered her awkward and goofy puberty years (but, by the way, came out of it just fine)).

Not sure Lost has done that yet, but the Kate/Sawyer hookup was a warning sign.

Probably what's a bigger problem with the show are its 1000 unresolved questions. They seem to have swept the entire DHARMA initiative under the rug in one fell swoop without resolving many of the question which surrounded it.
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This is what is incredible about LOST though. The producers are very involved and through the Podcasts we learn that Darma is coming back next year and we're going to learn more about them.

I never got into the lost experience (go to lostpedia.com if you don't know what I'm talking about) but that is all canon regarding the myth of LOST, essentially it is all fact regarding the storyline and tells us a lot about Darma, Hanso, and we know what the numbers mean.

The Sawyer / Kate thing needed to happen to open up the preggers issue on the island and the threat of death.

Remember, Juliet wanted to take women off the island to see what would happen and Ben wouldn't allow it.
 
Just saw the finale last night. Not too shabby. Although I still have tons of questions....like how do you get run over by a van like Tom and then survive? Moot point since Sawyer shoots him anyways, but still. How are you guys able to keep up with all the little nuances? I'm just going to have to watch the DVDs to fill in the gaps.

I sincerely hope that the writers have always known where this is going, cuz I sure don't half the time!
 
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