Looking forward to this lens (Sony 18-104 OSS F4)...

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I just saw this, really good news. I really liked everything about the 18-105 F4 except the distortion.
Also good news is that he says Sony is coming up with great optical Emount zoom lenses for the
FS700.....some F2.8. So it sounds like they are not abandoning the FS700 and only working on the
F5/55 line.
 
Yes, and they're talking about par focal cine lenses. Should mean that the new 28-135 will work. And exciting to see what the 2.8 will be!
with some luck they'll sneak some other improvements in there while they're at it ;)
 
Man! I was just about to pull the trigger for the SEL 16-70 Zeiss ;-)
Fall is quite a long time and would like to have a better standard lens than the 18-200.
Nevertheless good news that SONY is working on the FS700 not putting all energy into
developing a successor.
 
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Essami said:
Looks like there will be a free firmware upgrade to correct distortion on some zoom lenses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8K5oPIEgruM#t=501

Edit... oops, missed the last posts on the thread :)
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I wonder why everyone is so accepting of in-camera software fixes for poor lens design; yet, so negative about post-production distortion correction. I really don't think in-camera software corrections are any better than in post; so, there will always be resolution losses trying to fix poor lens design with software. If you're serious about 4K production, I'd be VERY apprehensive about the quality of the video stream using software correction for a substandard lens design. No, this seems like another Sony marketing ploy to lure the unsuspecting consumer into their cheaper products designed for home movie makers.

For sure, there's a huge market segment out there that will be happy with this less expensive solution, so I can't fault Sony. I would just reserve my praises for this kind of announcement, pending some actual user reports.
 
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I see it as a run&gun standard lens - and the r&g job won't be in 4K for sure.
You are right, we will wait and see but the idea of having a low price versatile
motorized zoom lens is attractive.
 
cuervo said:
I wonder why everyone is so accepting of in-camera software fixes for poor lens design; yet, so negative about post-production distortion correction. I really don't think in-camera software corrections are any better than in post; so, there will always be resolution losses trying to fix poor lens design with software..
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Have to agree, same difference, the glass sucks either way. I think we can only hope that there will be some new lenses that will be worth something to us, like the 28-135 F4 they've teased, however they've been showing it with their new A7s, so I'm hoping it's not the 18-104 all over again.

Till then I'm stuck using the 18-200 and my canon photo lenses. what I wouldn't give for a set of master primes.... and maybe a cabrio. =-)
 
Clermond said:
I see it as a run&gun standard lens - and the r&g job won't be in 4K for sure.
You are right, we will wait and see but the idea of having a low price versatile
motorized zoom lens is attractive.
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Yup, that's the exact reason I was set to buy it not long back until I read about the distortion.
For those going 4K, you're definitely rigging up with a FF, ody/r5 and if you're at that stage, its safe to assume you already have much better glass.

The 28-135 sounds good... but that doesn't really help us on wide end on the fs700. unless it's possible to make an e-mount to e-mount speed booster.
 
cuervo said:
I wonder why everyone is so accepting of in-camera software fixes for poor lens design; yet, so negative about post-production distortion correction. I really don't think in-camera software corrections are any better than in post; so, there will always be resolution losses trying to fix poor lens design with software. If you're serious about 4K production, I'd be VERY apprehensive about the quality of the video stream using software correction for a substandard lens design. No, this seems like another Sony marketing ploy to lure the unsuspecting consumer into their cheaper products designed for home movie makers.

For sure, there's a huge market segment out there that will be happy with this less expensive solution, so I can't fault Sony. I would just reserve my praises for this kind of announcement, pending some actual user reports.
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If they can make the software correction and have the lens look as good on the FS700
as it did on my VG20, I don't really care if they use Black Magic (oops accidental
trademark infringement there), I mean Dark Magic. I'll get it.
 
cuervo said:
I wonder why everyone is so accepting of in-camera software fixes for poor lens design;
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Do you follow hasselblad. They swapped to correcting lenses in post for 'in glass' for their top level stills camera system some time ago.

(Actually I think sony bought into that tech when they held hands with the horrid HasSony cameras)

Technology? Do we care? In glass In computer, In camera?, I dont care I just care what the image looks like.

In Cam vs Post? certainly I can see a technical advantage for fixing before compression.

S
 
Yep but fixing in post should be 'no effort'

For example sony have their 'log and capture' software solutions (that I hate and never use) but that is where the correction 'in computer' should happen - no user interference.

S
 
Any idea when that firmware upgrade is due to release for the FS700 any one ?

I took the plunge and purchased it today for £340 second hand.

It's going to replace my 18-270mm Tamron VC and Techart Adapter that I have been using all this time. Just getting sick and tired of changing ISO/Gain everytime I zoom in and out. And I rarely seem to use the 160-270mm range as it goes in to F5-6.3 which is unuseable even with two sets of 600 LED lights on a group of people.
 
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