Location Shooting Rights

Does anyone out there have a link to a good source for location shooting rights?
I was at a mall the other day with my Canon 60d, and it took about 5 minutes before security was in my face telling me that I can't shoot any structural photos or store fronts... I could only shoot my family...

It got me thinking that I need to know more about my rights when shooting video and photos.
Any info would help...
I've googled like crazy but to no avail.

Thanks in advance!
 
The basic location shooting rule is, do not shoot anywhere security is watching the area, especially if you're sporting a beard.
Don't even open the case or raise the camera.

Security folk these days are jumpy 24/7 and will stop you if you look suspicious and to them, most people carrying cameras do.

Especially don't shoot in Malls, you're lucky they let you shoot family there. It's the same all over the world and won't ever change now.

In Zambia, I got arrested at Livingston airport for carrying a DV camera and just looking at some basic Airforce trainers. To disembarking passengers horror I was marched off to security at the point of a very old pistol and had to replay holiday footage to the chief.

They were very apologetic and I managed to line them all up outside their office for some happy snaps. Even the office girls came out, my wife still thinks I'm crazy.

Cheers.
 
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Public property you can shoot all day long--store fronts and all. Private property is a little different. Unless there is a sign or some type of notification preventing you from shooting, you're free to go until someone asks you to stop. Then you do have to stop. I know this wasnt mentioned, but under no circumstances do you ever have to give up footage or erase what you've already shot. That's the best I can make of it all, but I'm no lawyer
 
But using that footage of a public place is another thing isnt it? for example someone in a small town, or new york for that matter... is filming.. I would assume if you were to use footage of buildings with logos on them in a project, film, ect.. then you might need to either get written permission or blur out the logos????
 
Only if you are featuring the logos and/or storefronts would you need to get permission. Disney tried that in Downtown Los Angeles. They basically said that ANYONE shooting ANYTHING that happened to incidentally show their freakin' music hall would be litigated. The courts basically said, "Screw you, Disney. If you build in a public place, then you can't control the background or skyline of foreground action." Disney need to chill.
 
Sorry this is not exactly related but it's fun to share this store. It was a big news in Hong Kong few weeks ago. D&G ban pedestrian taking photos on the street in front of D&G flag ship store in Hong Kong. Then the protest comes! D&G apologized later.

http://www.businessinsider.com/dolce-and-gabbana-officially-apologizes-to-hong-kong-protestors-2012-1

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If your on private property what rights would you assume you had?

I understand that private property is private property.
I also understand about using logos and what not.

I also know that if you are in a public place, here in illinois at least, even the police can not stop you for filming them as they arrest someone, as long as you are 50 feet away and not interfering in police activity. They can ask you to stop, but you don't have to.
If the police can't do anything, it seems like a mall cop should have slightly less authority.

At this point, I just want to know exactly what my rights are so I can quote them in the right situation.
I'll have to call the Illinois film office, I guess.

Thank you all for your insight, and thanks Taky for the great video! I posted the article to Facebook.
 
See here's where people get this wrong. Just because you are free to access a building without personally being invited in, doesn't mean it's public property. Any building, not owned by the government, is private property. Malls, stores, etc. are all private property; including their parking lots.

Private property = The property owner is in charge, and whatever they say (or who ever they dictate authority to, i.e; "mall cops") is the "law" of the property.

Property owners are free to do what they please on their property; including kicking some one out, or banning that person from the location.
 
and thanks Taky for the great video! I posted the article to Facebook.

The incident was first reported by a newspaper in Hong Kong. D&G claims they need to protect their intellectual property.

Check out this video at 1:00. The security guard from D&G threatened to break the camera. Then at 1:48 too.

 
Private property = The property owner is in charge, and whatever they say (or who ever they dictate authority to, i.e; "mall cops") is the "law" of the property.

Property owners are free to do what they please on their property; including kicking some one out, or banning that person from the location.

Understood.
I'm just looking for a resource for information on my rights. The mall was just an example.
I'd love to know what my rights are so that I know when police or security has the right to confiscate my camera or SD card (my private property), and when I have the right to tell security to go screw.
 
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