thomasharman
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I shot a rock concert of local 60's bands last night at a Rochester, MN club. Shot it as a favor for the guys in the bands because it was a fund raiser for Ross Florand, local singer, Minnesota rock hall of fame, who died recently- proceeds to his son for college.
From what I have reviewed I am pleased. I used my HMC150 for B-roll. I will post some examples at a later date, but I will list the set up for those who have a similar gig coming and are wondering what choices might be viable.
One person shoot.
Band's audio engineer helped with sound board feed, mono line level to Rear XLR 4
Sennheiser MKH 60 Shotgun to Front Line 1 for ambiance
Stereo microphones, Mid/Side pattern, set up near stage, recorded to DAT.
Venue setting dictated both cameras back 60 feet, center, in front of sound board on a two step second tier level from the dance floor.
Typical stage lighting with alternating colors, white spot flashed intermittently from background, smoke machine running infrequently fortunately, and strobe. Photographer using flash through much of the 4 hours.
Tripods. Cartoni head for the 370's tripod. Just a Bogen for the 150 since I only needed a stable support.
Panasonic BT-LH900A LCD Multi-Format Monitor for HPX370- really helped because the back focus on my lens was not correct- my dealer did it when I bought it 2 months ago. I suppose it might have changed, but I did not notice it in previous shoots, probably because I never had to shoot wide open for those outdoor, fly fishing video shoots. I should have checked it. This issue made most of the zooms I did not fully usable. Cut edits are better anyway.
Latest firmware installed
Stock Fujinon lens
Preset WB 3200 K, both cameras. The color looks true to my eyes and memory.
720 24pn, Cine D gamma, both cameras. Judder was not an issue since I panned very slowly if at all.
2 64 Gig P2 cards
1 Transcend 16 Gig SDHC card, with 2 Panasonic 8 Gig cards as back up.
Laptop to download the SDHC cards. I only used the 16 Gig card because I had time to transfer the files to the laptop. Did not need to download the P2's, and I had almost an hour's worth of card space left at the end of the night.
Auto iris, both cameras. if this were a shoot for broadcast I would have used manual iris, but for a more relaxed 4 hour evening, the price of blowing out an occasional shirt shirt sleeve on one of the guitar players was worth it.
No flash band compensation- not available with that recording set up, and of course not available on the 150. I have not found a flash band defect yet. :thumbup:
The sensitivity of the 370 was not dramatically better over the 150. I assume that the software upgrade is responsible for this. Used 6 dB gain for both cameras, occasional at 12 dB for the 370.
I haven't looked closely for noise but I see very little on my LCD monitors for Premiere Pro CS5, and Vegas 8 out to a home television CRT monitor (even with the preview resolution Vegas picks on Auto.) I haven't rendered anything to disc yet to see how they might compare.
I don't see having to make any color corrections in post for the 150, especially since it was almost entirely for full stage, dancing crowd folks shots, B-roll.
Overall it has turned out well, considering I retired from event work 2 years ago, and had done all of those in SD DV with DVX100A's and older cameras over 12 years.
Hope this helps someone.
Tom
From what I have reviewed I am pleased. I used my HMC150 for B-roll. I will post some examples at a later date, but I will list the set up for those who have a similar gig coming and are wondering what choices might be viable.
One person shoot.
Band's audio engineer helped with sound board feed, mono line level to Rear XLR 4
Sennheiser MKH 60 Shotgun to Front Line 1 for ambiance
Stereo microphones, Mid/Side pattern, set up near stage, recorded to DAT.
Venue setting dictated both cameras back 60 feet, center, in front of sound board on a two step second tier level from the dance floor.
Typical stage lighting with alternating colors, white spot flashed intermittently from background, smoke machine running infrequently fortunately, and strobe. Photographer using flash through much of the 4 hours.
Tripods. Cartoni head for the 370's tripod. Just a Bogen for the 150 since I only needed a stable support.
Panasonic BT-LH900A LCD Multi-Format Monitor for HPX370- really helped because the back focus on my lens was not correct- my dealer did it when I bought it 2 months ago. I suppose it might have changed, but I did not notice it in previous shoots, probably because I never had to shoot wide open for those outdoor, fly fishing video shoots. I should have checked it. This issue made most of the zooms I did not fully usable. Cut edits are better anyway.
Latest firmware installed
Stock Fujinon lens
Preset WB 3200 K, both cameras. The color looks true to my eyes and memory.
720 24pn, Cine D gamma, both cameras. Judder was not an issue since I panned very slowly if at all.
2 64 Gig P2 cards
1 Transcend 16 Gig SDHC card, with 2 Panasonic 8 Gig cards as back up.
Laptop to download the SDHC cards. I only used the 16 Gig card because I had time to transfer the files to the laptop. Did not need to download the P2's, and I had almost an hour's worth of card space left at the end of the night.
Auto iris, both cameras. if this were a shoot for broadcast I would have used manual iris, but for a more relaxed 4 hour evening, the price of blowing out an occasional shirt shirt sleeve on one of the guitar players was worth it.
No flash band compensation- not available with that recording set up, and of course not available on the 150. I have not found a flash band defect yet. :thumbup:
The sensitivity of the 370 was not dramatically better over the 150. I assume that the software upgrade is responsible for this. Used 6 dB gain for both cameras, occasional at 12 dB for the 370.
I haven't looked closely for noise but I see very little on my LCD monitors for Premiere Pro CS5, and Vegas 8 out to a home television CRT monitor (even with the preview resolution Vegas picks on Auto.) I haven't rendered anything to disc yet to see how they might compare.
I don't see having to make any color corrections in post for the 150, especially since it was almost entirely for full stage, dancing crowd folks shots, B-roll.
Overall it has turned out well, considering I retired from event work 2 years ago, and had done all of those in SD DV with DVX100A's and older cameras over 12 years.
Hope this helps someone.
Tom
youve probably already done it but when you flash the 370 with the new firmware it doesnt automatically enable the new noise feature,you need to do that by hand. Just thought id mention it as you commented on the comparison to the 150. Edit: apologies if this text looks strange,im sending it from my phone and it doesnt fit my screen.