Lion's Gate horror feature shot on red

Dancing horror movie pigman. That's just funny. Question about horror film characters like this: When people find out how to open the gates of Hell, what makes them decide this is a good thing to do. LOL.

Edit: And what makes a pigman from hell dance? LOL.

-Nate
 
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Hey Cheezy, since you actually worked with the Red, did you experience any bugs? I have heard both Praises and Razzes about the Red, so what was your experience like?
 
Hey Cheezy, since you actually worked with the Red, did you experience any bugs? I have heard both Praises and Razzes about the Red, so what was your experience like?

well i have worked with the red a few times. most of the time it's great. it's a lot like working with an hvx200 or any other tapeless camera. menus are easy. same data wrangling protocol. just a lot more data to deal with. on this shoot we were using 2 cameras. we were very limited on time so we were shooting double coverage almost all the time. on this shoot we had some camera issues. nothing catastrophic, but snags for sure. both cams had been upgraded to build 17 on the first day of shooting. maybe that was the problem. i know build 16 was pretty solid and i never had a problem with it. who knows? the problems we were having had to do with storage. for instance, one camera would all of the sudden start dropping frames when recording to the hard drive. but then it would be fine recording to CF. then later it would flip flop and want the drive again. luckily we had 2 or 3 of the drives and a ton of CF cards so we didn't have too much downtime. there was always at least one of them working. at one point one of the cams didn't want to record to the drive and wouldn't even recognize CF cards. turns out the CF reader had gone bad and was replaced the next day. in the meantime, our DIT and camera owner took the camera apart, disconnected the CF reader which happens to be a SATA reader, took the hard drive out of his mac, and connected it to the red. MADMAN!!! well crazy as it sounds it actually worked. the drive wasn't fast enough to capture 4k but would capture 2k. so we shot with it all night at 2k with a laptop hard drive gaff taped to the side. i have pics.

overall the pros outweigh the cons by a long shot. the camera is amazing. it's not film but it sure acts like it in the way it records an image. with HD you capture exactly what you see in the room. if you want a nice soft film look you have to diffuse the crap out of all your lighting because HD is completely unforgiving. film on the other hand diffuses hard light and smoothes out hard contrast. the red, possibly to a slightly lesser extent, does the same thing. we used very little diffusion on our lights and standing in the room most times it looked like a crispy 80's music video. the red renders that in a much nicer way than HD or even the human eye can.
 
I had heard they tend to overheat, shut down, etc. I hadn't heard about them dropping frames or having drive issues.
 
I have been talking to my wife about jumping into a RED camera next year. I told her how much it will cost and she ignored me for the rest of the night and did'nt give me any. I'm still buying one though. I just need to get A LOT better first. Maybe by then the scarlet will actually be in production, I doubt it, but maybe.
 
kholi, we shot 24p with a standard 180deg shutter. our glass was a set of cooke s4 primes and a cooke zoom.

brianluce, the monster was real. that is, silicone and stuff covered in ky jelly. built by an amazing artist named elvis. took around 3.5 hours to get the actor into the suit and ready to shoot. the feet were like stilts making him around 2 feet taller. the actor was a trooper and stayed in the suit pretty much all day on our last day of shooting. on a previous day, an inexperienced pa wrapped his feet to prep him for the suit. she did it way too tight and cut off his circulation. by the end of the day he was pretty messed up. we had a great fx team. the monster was only one of many things they pulled off. we have a 300 pound pig man, dead bodies, intestines, tons and tons of blood. (have you ever tried cleaning stage blood off of a lens? harder than you might think)
 
doing a REAL monster is a welcome change. CGI still looks CGI and if it is done right it is great. But I still have to pop in "The Thing" every now and then.
 
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