Likelihood of at least 720p 60fps on the upcoming FF body?

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dtjohns1

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What do you guys think the likelihood of the newest 5D Mark III/X having 60p is? Seeing that the D800 (which I'm thinking is the direct competitor to this camera) and the 1DX has it and they're both full frame my hopes are high. If they add it to this body I can honestly say I would not need another body for a loooong time.
 
Obviously no one will know for sure until specs are released but, If I had to guess I'd say 720p 60p is more likely then 1080p 60p.
 
When Cinema EOS was revealed my hopes for major improvements in video on EOS still cameras died. My guess is we will see some small token improvements to the video side, but Canon's answer to outcry about lack of major advancement will be "buy a Cinema EOS system".
 
I'm hoping Canon looks at each type of camera (DSLR vs. camcorder) as serving the needs of a different market. And each market has different customers with different needs.

So, now that it's a given that all DSLRs from now on will include video capability, a customer who'll buy a "5DM3" may very well have a use for 1080p60 (or 1080p50) in addition to 1080p30/24/25 (and probably 60i/50i). And of course superb digital stills, too.

The target market for a "5DM3" is people who want relatively high-quality stills & HD video in a $2,500 - $3,000 US price range. I think it's reasonable to expect 1080p60 in a DSLR in that price range.

If Canon has the technical ability to deliver such a DSLR, they will, and they'll sell several boat loads of them.

The above does not take away from C300 sales. It's a different product with mostly very different features & capabilities. Canon, like most manufacturers, makes $$$ millions by selling different products to different markets.
 
Peter J. DeCrescenzo said:
I'm hoping Canon looks at each type of camera (DSLR vs. camcorder) as serving the needs of a different market. And each market has different customers with different needs.

So, now that it's a given that all DSLRs from now on will include video capability, a customer who'll buy a "5DM3" may very well have a use for 1080p60 (or 1080p50) in addition to 1080p30/24/25 (and probably 60i/50i). And of course superb digital stills, too.

The target market for a "5DM3" is people who want relatively high-quality stills & HD video in a $2,500 - $3,000 US price range. I think it's reasonable to expect 1080p60 in a DSLR in that price range.

If Canon has the technical ability to deliver such a DSLR, they will, and they'll sell several boat loads of them.

The above does not take away from C300 sales. It's a different product with mostly very different features & capabilities. Canon, like most manufacturers, makes $$$ millions by selling different products to different markets.
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Let's not forget that it can be about internal egos too. Sometimes internal politics over shadows the goal of simply making money.

I'm sure the guy/gal who was primarily credited with the C300 design got a big pat on the back. Now to have a DSLR with rival features could mean a blow to his/her ego...etc (inspite of the competition).

I hope Canon does not pull a "Sony" and recognizes that the competition (D4 and D800) are taking DSLR Cinema seriously and therefore so should they. And not just on features, but on the monetary valuation (i.e. don't overprice, thinking the Canon brand is enough to pull in a higher price premium).

I have no issues with selling all of my Canon glass and going Nikon.

I still can't forget what the Canon rep. said in Dan Chung's interview regarding the 1Dx, that putting in a headphone jack and clean HDMI was going a step too far into their camcorder territory. It's time to see past their own office walls.
 
Tim Nitsch said:
Obviously no one will know for sure until specs are released but, If I had to guess I'd say 720p 60p is more likely then 1080p 60p.
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I had the opportunity to handle a 1DX at the Broadcast Video Exhibition in London this week & when I was running through the menus it was 1280x720@50p in PAL mode so presumably 720@60p for NTSC mode. The camera feels great & very complete considering it's about two months off shipping. There is a choice between High or Low compression with the former all-I frames. There were pages of menu setup for AF for stills (the major market). Otherwise the video setup looked pretty similar to the 5DII. I didn't have a CF card so couldn't test recording even assuming that Canon would have allowed me to test it. Focusing in Live Mode by half pressing the shutter button was faster than on the 5D but Quick Mode was about the same (presumably the time to flip the mirror down & up is the limiting factor.
 
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