Let's Talk Settings...

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Bono

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I've been scouring the posts for opinions and shooting tests on my own. I'm looking for optimal settings considering a post color correct and shooting out to film. The "Look" is clean, not gritty. I've arrived at the settings below. Hopefully some of you will chime in with your opinions...

DETAIL = -3
CORING = +3
CHROMA = 0
MASTER PED = -3
GAMMA = CINE-D
MATRIX = NORMAL
SHUTTER = 180 DEGREE

Some suggest a lower MASTER PED, even -6, but why crush the blacks so much? We all want good inky blacks, but why not capture the full latitude and bring it down in the color correct, like when shooting film?

I'm still confused about Shutter. Why do some suggest turning the shutter OFF for a better film-out? Or is 180 degrees the same thing as OFF?

The whole DETAIL / CORING / NOISE balance is hard to figure out. According to Barry, CORING is noise reduction and will work more when the DETAIL level is set higher. BUT...if you set the DETAIL level higher, you will have more noise...?? I was surprised when Barry suggested +7 CORING for the "Wolves" clip. Barry -- are you using that setting very often?

CHROMA seems best set to 0 and dealt with in post color correct. Similar decision with MATRIX -- keep it set to NORM and deal with color saturation in post.
 
Bono said:
The whole DETAIL / CORING / NOISE balance is hard to figure out. According to Barry, CORING is noise reduction and will work more when the DETAIL level is set higher. BUT...if you set the DETAIL level higher, you will have more noise...??
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Bono - be very careful. These controls are PRIMARILY going to affect various qualities of the picture relating to it's sharpness and how 'edgy' it looks, though they will have an effect on noise as a SECONDARY effect. Using them as 'noise level' controls may reduce noise, but any gains may be far offset by other bad effects in other ways - very high coring levels leading to a 'puddingy' effect, and very non film like. What is especially dangerous here is that you may set these for optimum noise level on one scene or test signal, think it looks as good as possible, then take it outside and find it looks poor in real life.

Increasing coring and overall detail will act on the noise in opposite ways it's true, but will lead to 'outlined' looking pictures, lacking in subtle detail. Much better to reduce both coring and detail for a more natural look.

I'll refer back to my post at http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=441104&postcount=15 for a more detailed description of what coring actually does. (Difficult without diagrams.....!)
 
Harddrive, you seem to have a very good handle on this and I appreciate your posts. I'm still a little lost on all these settings and hoping that once I get my hands on Barry's HVX book I'll be able to do some more reading up and get a handle on the settings.
 
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