Leaving Premiere Pro!!

firehawk said:
Scott F, unless something has changed, I believe Adobe will only let you stay on a version of CC for so many versions back (or a certain time back) and then they will make you upgrade to a newer version.
So eventually you'll have to move up. Is 2 the limit? I forget....

Another reason I don't like the cloud.
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Wrong, you can have all versions of Premiere Pro installed at the same time. There has never been such limit that limits the user to only have one or max two versions installed.

The change they did is that Adobe now uninstalls the previous version by default, but you can change that with one mouse click and by doing so having the previous version installed while installing the new version is possible. So with CC you can install separate versions of CS6, CC2013, CC2014, CC2015 and CC2017.
 
Scott F said:
Oh hi, thanks for the response. No....I can I suppose. I just didn't want to push the updates based on the age of the computer & compatibility.

Right now I have both the original PP2015 and the the updated version 15.3. I find my system just isn't up to snuff or maybe it's just not as compatible with the OS when cutting in 15.3. Some projects I'm working on were prone to crashing/lagging ect. PP2015 seems to move more seamlessly. (I made the moronic mistake of upgrading mid-project in one instance)

To really answer your original question, I have held off on upgrades based on this thread

Not sure if they've hammered things out, that thread seemed like just yesterday in my mind...I guess the lesson I'm learning right now is the older you get, the faster time flies!!! (AND/OR Apple is banging out new operating systems at a ridiculous pace)

As always, if you're using PP on a Mac, I'd love to hear your current setup & Operating System of choice. And my other question still stands: anyone delved into '17 yet?
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I hear you about not wanting to "rock the boat". I'm on a Mac pro 3,1 2.8 eight core, 16gb Ram, ATI Radeon 5770 running PP 2015.3 on El Capitan. In fact, I just upgraded to El Capitan hoping it would be stable enough in PP but I have found a few little quirks. Like for instance there has been some weirdness with some audio tracks not containing audio in my timeline and some quirky peak file/waveform behavior, as in waveforms are taking forever to show up or don't at all. Also, some sluggish behavior... Anyway, my Mac Pro was misbehaving lately (I think it was a problem with a usb 3.0 card I installed) and I was pricing new Macs and being on a budget it was very depressing, to say the least, to find a non-prosumer mac at a decent price :/
 
Anyone who hasn't given FCPX a look recently should.
Like many, I turned away at the FCP7>FCPX transition and during the next two years was on PP.
Once I took the time to understand the workflow and layout, I quickly came to love it.
I can easily say that I could never turn back to "the old" way of editing. X is faster, cleaner, and actually enjoyable.
We edit a national TV comedy.

Now with 10.3....
 
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I'm on windows. My subscription comes due in the spring. I'm hoping to jump off Adobe CC subscription. It's annual. If you quit before the renewal month they charge you 50% of the rest of the year. Nice. I have a project coming up that I need AE for then I'm free to explore more. Anyone find Fusion a useful replacement? I'm working with Resolve for grading now and look forward to trying editing on it for real. I've already replaced Audition with Pro Tools, although , I do think that Audition is pretty good.
 
No what I meant was that you couldn't stay on just an older version of CC and not move up. Like if I was using the first version of CC and I liked it so I refused to upgrade to a newer version. CC 2014 comes out then 2015.x and I still want to stay on the one one that is several versions back. There is a limit how long you can sit on a version , either time or # of versions back before you have to upgrade right? That's what I meant. Sorry about the way I said it. Hope that makes more sense.
 
I forced my own hand to move to Resolve. It's cleaner and far more stable for me. Also I love the editing controls.
When working in premiere it seemed I would have an issue on 1 out of 3 projects. It would crash when using warp stabilizer on one timeline but not another. It wouldn't save. It would suddenly lose file locations. It would crash over and over again and I would endlessly have to try and figure out why it crashed and avoid it.
And the final straw was the latest update that suddenly would not support audio files from certain videos I tried to import. At that point I decided to fully switch.


Things I miss from premiere:
Simple Project organization I save the project file in a certain location and I move it. I do NOT like Resolves organizational features and front end.
PDF support
Audio Controls (Seriously they need to fix this)
Exporting wavform audio files (Needed for DCP's)
 
firehawk said:
No what I meant was that you couldn't stay on just an older version of CC and not move up. Like if I was using the first version of CC and I liked it so I refused to upgrade to a newer version. CC 2014 comes out then 2015.x and I still want to stay on the one one that is several versions back. There is a limit how long you can sit on a version , either time or # of versions back before you have to upgrade right? That's what I meant. Sorry about the way I said it. Hope that makes more sense.
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Wrong, Adobe is not forcing you to upgrade and there is no time limit that limits you to have a certain version only for a limited period of time. There has never been.

For example:
If you started with Premiere Pro CC2013 in year 2013 you can still use it november 2016 without being forced to upgrade to any newer version than CC2013, not being forced to uninstall CC2013 nor being forced to upgrade to newer version. If you now upgrade to CC2017 you can still work with CC2013 and CC2017. There has never been any time limit. You can sit on a version for how long time you want as long as you pay for it. There is no limit that only let´s you use an old version for a limited time, such as one year. Having CS6/CC2013/CC2014/CC2015 and CC2017 installed at the same time and in working condition is indeed possible.

What Adobe did do was to uninstall previous versions by default since CC2015, but there is an option to keep previous version/versions. Yes, annoying by doing it by default. But it´s not a time limit that makes older software unusable if you re-install them. More info: https://blogs.adobe.com/creativeclo...nstalled-when-installing-cc-2015-applications

From were did you get that information, that there is a time limit? :)
 
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