Leaked pictures and video of the new Nikon mirrorless full frame camera
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Samuel H
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I like the top layout: mode wheel on the left and LCD screen on the right. But that screen was more useful on DSLRs than on a camera that already shows you all that info in the viewfinder. The two front buttons are nice too. The rest of the layout doesn't look that different from what Sony is doing. Let's see what Nikon does to try to convince people that their camera is actually better than the Sonys...
morgan_moore
Major Contributor
..Or any different at all!
NorBro
Major Contributor
It looks like both are 4K/30p (which effectively ends my interest immediately if so):
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/first-nikon-z7-z6-versus-sony-a7riii-a7iii-specs-comparison/
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/first-nikon-z7-z6-versus-sony-a7riii-a7iii-specs-comparison/
joe1946
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More Nikon Z7 mirrorless camera leaks:
45.7 MP
493 AF Point
9 fps
EVF: 3.6M QVGA
2.1M touchscreen
5-axis stabilization
Hybrid PDAF
FullHD 120p, 4K UHD 30p Video, 8K time lapse, N-LOG profile (4: 2: 2 10-bit HDMI output), focus peaking, Zebra
EN-EL15b battery
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth
Weather sealed body
Price: Nikon Z7 + FTZ around 3600EUR, Z7 + FTZ + 24-70 around 4200EUR
NEW: the FTZ adapter is working with IBIS.
Read more: https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/22/more-nikon-z7-leaks-new-specs-pictures.aspx/#ixzz5OxAJJbW6
Still not sure about the memory card slots.
Samuel H
Major Contributor
10-bit 422 N-log is the big news for me here, but it's only through HDMI, and there's no 4k 60fps, so I think I'll just get the p4k. It's a smaller sensor but it shoots internal RAW, and it forces me to focus manually but it doesn't seem the Nikons will do the kind of uber-awesome eye-detect AF that could make me forget about RAW video.
morgan_moore
Major Contributor
I’m semi interested.
Nikon menus.
No need for speed booster
Two mountpoints with lens adapter
I think Af will be better than gh4/5/Eva
Decent output into shogun maybe.
XQD like my fs7
Stabilise might be handy
Stills
Possible high flash
Jpg to social
Nikon menus.
No need for speed booster
Two mountpoints with lens adapter
I think Af will be better than gh4/5/Eva
Decent output into shogun maybe.
XQD like my fs7
Stabilise might be handy
Stills
Possible high flash
Jpg to social
morgan_moore
Major Contributor
Internal codec specs?
https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-p....html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs
Movie Maximum Recording Time: 29 minutes 59 seconds
Movie File Format: MOV / MP4
Movie Video Compression: H.264/MPEG-4 Advanced Video Coding
presumed 8bit in as 10bit is only mentioned as HDMI out.
Not impressed by the video quality in this clip here at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMXNWl5U30Q
morgan_moore
Major Contributor
Not impressed by the video quality in this clip here at all:
The last two log clips one can clearly see the application of a LOOK/LUT/GRADE forces clipping - which I assume to be entirely user error in the colour room.
It does not put me off (or amaze me)
The last two log clips one can clearly see the application of a LOOK/LUT/GRADE forces clipping - which I assume to be entirely user error in the colour room.
It does not put me off (or amaze me)
Samuel H
Major Contributor
That doesn't look good at all to me: plenty of nasty highlights, from beginning to end. But the un-graded vs graded comparisons at the end hint to this being a result of the grade, not the original footage. No idea why they graded it like that (maybe it was a direct nlog-to-rec709 LUT?) but you'd have the choice to work with it differently if you don't want that final look.
morgan_moore
Major Contributor
SO.
I guess my thinking is ..
1) will this work as a small camera for running and gunning.
I have a dislike of my GH4 - Ive never 'felt' it.
Nikon could..
Simplify lensing.
Attaches well to a tripod plate.
Doubtless good to 3200 ISO
AF may work well enough to make some difference compared to wandering AF which is actually a major hinderance.
Viewfinder might be nice.
120 FPS is enough to handhold a long lens.
Downsides..
No ND (at least with 100ISo this is less bad than base 800 cameras)
Possible rolling shutter
Possible bad menu dig to engage HFR
Possible Weak image.. but 144mps is enough to deliver HD IMO.
Still cant really see a way of supporting it on the shoulder
3) Franken rig /gimbal camera.
Might be interesting with shogun, but now sure that it would offer much from my FS7
AF might work well enough for gimbal.
I guess my thinking is ..
1) will this work as a small camera for running and gunning.
I have a dislike of my GH4 - Ive never 'felt' it.
Nikon could..
Simplify lensing.
Attaches well to a tripod plate.
Doubtless good to 3200 ISO
AF may work well enough to make some difference compared to wandering AF which is actually a major hinderance.
Viewfinder might be nice.
120 FPS is enough to handhold a long lens.
Downsides..
No ND (at least with 100ISo this is less bad than base 800 cameras)
Possible rolling shutter
Possible bad menu dig to engage HFR
Possible Weak image.. but 144mps is enough to deliver HD IMO.
Still cant really see a way of supporting it on the shoulder
3) Franken rig /gimbal camera.
Might be interesting with shogun, but now sure that it would offer much from my FS7
AF might work well enough for gimbal.
Samuel H
Major Contributor
Price comparison:
The Z6 costs about the same as the very similar a7 III
The Z7 costs $400-$600 more than the very similar a7R III
The 24-70mm f/4 is $1000 on the Nikon and $800 on the Sony
The 50mm f/1.8 is $600 on the Nikon and $200-$800 on the Sony (50mm-55mm)
The 35mm f/1.8 is $600 on the Nikon and weirdly enough doesn't have a counterpart on the Sony camp; the 85mm f/1.8 is $550, let's compare it to that one
The Z6 costs about the same as the very similar a7 III
The Z7 costs $400-$600 more than the very similar a7R III
The 24-70mm f/4 is $1000 on the Nikon and $800 on the Sony
The 50mm f/1.8 is $600 on the Nikon and $200-$800 on the Sony (50mm-55mm)
The 35mm f/1.8 is $600 on the Nikon and weirdly enough doesn't have a counterpart on the Sony camp; the 85mm f/1.8 is $550, let's compare it to that one
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Mirrorless for video. Meh. Same issues every other mirrorless has.
Great features from Nikon but comes short, a single card slot renders this camera for amateurs and consumers rather than professionals. Cards will fail sooner or later and if you are getting paid to capture video or photos you better be recording to a dual card system. Sony still rules, will wait to see what Canon has in store next month but Nikon is not a serouis contender for me at this point.