King Kong

Okay. I've spent about 5 hours tonight watching King Kong. I started out with the 1933 version. It has probably been 40 years since I originally saw this and I don't remember it being this good. I remember being so-so about the movie. But seeing it tonight I am really impressed by what was accomplished nearly 75 years ago. Sure the effects are a bit cheesy today but back then...wow. I was not originally a fan but now I am. This movie actually approaches the masterpiece rating.:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbsup:

That's the good news. The first hour, forty minutes. Now for the bad news.

Peter Jackson. Take away LOTR and what do you have? Basically, nothing. Casting...atrocious. My pick for Denham would have been Kevin Spacey. When I was watching the 1933 version the Denham character was screaming Kevin Spacey. And what was this poo poo about having the Jack Driscoll character being some namby-pamby playwright? In the '33 version he was a man's man. First mate of the Venture. I'm not sure who I'd replace Brody with but it would be somebody with some presence. Naomi Watts...now that was brilliant casting. Fay Wray was a knock out as is Ms. Watts. There were a lot of good images in the Jackson version but it plods to its inevitable conclusion. Jackson did some great things with the natives. The Kong footage used state of the art graphics. But I didn't feel a soul to this movie. Certainly, not in the way I felt it in the 1933 version. It was just too 'clever' by half. The actor that played the captain did a fine job but I just couldn't help but wonder how someone like Max Von Sydow might have portrayed the captain. About an hour into the picture I began to wonder if we were ever going to get to the meat of the story...A poo pooing hour to set this up? Give me a poo pooing break. Peter Jackson gave us some beautiful pictures but OMG the self indulgence. I had the feeling that he wanted to stay true to the picture but in the end could just show no self-restraint and ended up producing a picture loaded with self indulgence.

Jackson's scenes with the island natives were remarkable, however. They were terrifying and along with the fire laden images of the Kong wall and the rescue boats tossed about on an angry sea...WOW. This movie had a lot of things that I like but in the end still fell flat. I mean the images of Naomi Watts tied up, waiting for Kong were glorious.

Take this movie and get rid of the chaff and this could have been a masterpiece. But instead we were subjected to Mr. Jackson self aggrandizement. This movie had so much potential. It wasn't a horrible movie, in fact, it had some wonderful images. It was a near miss for me mainly because of the miscasting of Jack Black and Adrien Brody...and Jackson's self indulgence. Tighten this thing up...cut even an hour out of it and I think it could have been a fabulous movie.

I realize there were dinosaurs in the original and I didn't like them in that either. Peter Jackson created some nice visuals but in the long run missed the boat. a marginal :thumbdown I was actually expecting worse.

EDIT: could I possibly have worked "self indulgent" in any more? :embarasse And I didn't mention it earlier but the vaudeville routine between Naomi and Kong was just embarrasing.
 
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this probably woulda made a really cool 100 minute movie.

if pj didnt wanna lose all that "kong stares at anne, anne stares at kong" crap he coulda thrown it on as an hour and a half uninterupted bonus feature
 
Hmmmm. I'm about 2/3 of the way through the 1976 version of King Kong with Jeff Bridges. I forgot what a turkey this was. The locales in Kauai are great. But this is a classic B movie. Okay, maybe as a b-movie it isn't a turkey...oh, wait...do you call that acting? "You're not in a hole...that's a footprint." "Estimated monkey time to your position..." And how can anyone take Grodin seriously. If this hadn't been meant as an A movie, I wouldn't be so hard but damn, I'm laughing at the wrong places. The classic is still the best. I had to get this one after watching the other two just to complete the collection.

The one saving grace...Jessica Lange is easy on the eyes...
 
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i still can't believe Jackson came out with the Deluxe Super Duper Special Edition Director's Cut of the film with a bunch more **** on it. I think Jackson's taking advice from Lucas on double dipping and pissing off fans.
 
The Frightners and Kong. He did the same DVD release crap for LOTR, with the Deluxe Editions a couple years ago, then re-released them again this year.... thats such crap
 
Peter Jackson doesn't need me to defend him and I agree that Kong is way too long and overindulgent but I think he's a fine director that just got a little too much unchecked editing(or lack there of) on this one.

As far as his catalog his first movie "Bad Taste" is a great first time effort horror/comedy and he also made the bloodfest "Dead Alive" .

If he would have had some reasonable restraint editing Kong I think we would have been talking about a classic even with the erroneous casting of JB.
 
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This past week I watched 2 films on HD-DVD: Peter Jackson's 2006 King Kong, and John Ford's 1956 The Searchers.

The winter scenes in the 1956 film are far superior to those in Kong. In Kong, we've got Naomi Watts running around Manhattan in the middle of winter wearing a sleeveless evening gown. The ponds in Central Park are frozen solid, but she spends the night atop the Empire State Building. It's completely ridiculous. But of course, everything was shot in cozy studio comfort, with "winter" provided by CGI.

Contrast this approach with The Searchers. John Ford shot the winter scenes in a particularly cold and remote region of Canada, where temps reach 30 degrees below zero. And it comes across on screen! The landscapes are fantastic and believeable. I intend to watch The Searchers again; I have no desire to watch Kong again.

CGI can be a great storytelling tool, but it's no substitute for reality.
 
Blaine said:
If you take LOTR off his resume, what the hell is left???? :huh:

Meet the Feebles, which is as classic a work of inspired twistedness, as you are ever likely to see...

I'm probably a bad audience for KK to start with, since the story has never particularly grabbed me, in any incarnation (although the 1930s version is my favorite, if I had to pick one).

I would have enjoyed Jackson's version more, had it been paced a bit faster...the only part where it really had me leaning forward, was the last half-hour or so.

If I could somehow un-see the whole valley-of-the-man-eating-flatworms sequence, I'd sure do that in a heartbeat.
 
Sean Michael said:
This past week I watched 2 films on HD-DVD: Peter Jackson's 2006 King Kong, and John Ford's 1956 The Searchers.

The winter scenes in the 1956 film are far superior to those in Kong. In Kong, we've got Naomi Watts running around Manhattan in the middle of winter wearing a sleeveless evening gown. The ponds in Central Park are frozen solid, but she spends the night atop the Empire State Building. It's completely ridiculous. But of course, everything was shot in cozy studio comfort, with "winter" provided by CGI.

Contrast this approach with The Searchers. John Ford shot the winter scenes in a particularly cold and remote region of Canada, where temps reach 30 degrees below zero. And it comes across on screen! The landscapes are fantastic and believeable. I intend to watch The Searchers again; I have no desire to watch Kong again.

CGI can be a great storytelling tool, but it's no substitute for reality.


You nailed it brother!

The Searchers is one of the greatest westerns, if not movies of all time (along with "Once Upon a Time in the West". Cinematic masterpieces.

Jackson's KK, for lack of a better word....sucked. WAY to long....and now he wants to release an extended version? What are you going to do Peter, add another half hour to the stampede scene?

Rumor has it, he is not doing the new Hobbitt movie (not by his choice), thank god.
 
Cut down to about 130 minutes, this movie actually would not be so bad, but I can not possibly imagine was possibly could be added to original version... :huh: Maybe the 40-minute long love scene ;-)
 
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