Kevin Railsback shoots with the HPX250

Very well done. Kevin really has an eye for composition and capturing the little details in nature. He is answering questions about the cam on the linked site.
 
You just keep dragging me out of the shadows don't you Barry? :)
I love the HPX250! It's what I've been hoping Panasonic would build for a long time. A small body, killer codec, long reach and smothered in awesome sauce!
Love the peaking, the new LCD,EVF, the lens.
With the peaking turned up to 7 it's like a light bulb being turned on. There's no mistake when you hit focus.
The LCD is sharp enough that I was easily able to track flying geese as they flew by.
All the videos I've seen of the camera make it look HUGE. It's really not that big. Bigger than my 170 but not so big that I had to make any adjustments in my cases or bags as I toured Iowa with it.
Having the iris control on the lens now is really sweet. Very easy to adjust without taking you out of the zone.
 
My only complaint about the footage was that I couldn't figure out how to make it full-screen.

Splendid stuff.
 
i hate to rain in everyone's cornflakes here. or to insult the shooter. as this is absolutely lovely STILL video imagery.

but i think showing locked off footage is a pretty lousy way of demonstrating the performance of a VIDEO camera. especially since aliasing, rolling shutter and jitter are such big niggling points about cmos cameras these days.

in the one moving shot there was in the clip. i saw what appeared to be alaising all over the place. same in his zoom test. now this may have been an artifact of the web export. so i dont want to be one of those people screaming bloody murder over nothing.

that said. these days ive become suspicious of any test clips that dont show footage with the camera itself moving : (
 
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Why that video was beautiful, you are right WGZN, moving camera shots is what will show the camera's true colors.
 
wgzn said:
i hate to pee in everyone's cornflakes here. or to insult the shooter. as this is absolutely lovely STILL video imagery.

but i think showing locked off footage is a pretty lousy way of demonstrating the performance of a VIDEO camera. especially since aliasing, rolling shutter and jitter are such big niggling points about cmos cameras these days.

in the one moving shot there was in the clip. i saw what appeared to be alaising all over the place. same in his zoom test. now this may have been an artifact of the web export. so i dont want to be one of those people screaming bloody murder over nothing.

that said. these days ive become suspicious of any test clips that dont show footage with the camera itself moving : (
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Which is exactly why I never posted it here. It's a 5 gig file compressed down to 30meg and I learned long time ago never to post any footage here.
It's not worth listening to the bickering about what people think they see or they don't see.
I set the camera up for the way I want to set it up. I have no idea if my setup shows what the camera can do. There could be much better settings that result in better footage. I don't know. I set it up how I like my footage to look and I leave it there. So, I'm not going to post something that people will pick apart because of something that _I_ did in setting it up or compressing the footage and have them blame the camera when it could very easily be the way I set it up.


I'm not insulted, I just know that's what happens here when footage gets posted of a new camera which is again why I never posted anything here to begin with.
I'm just glad I chopped the last two minutes off of the original edit. It was all slider shots and rack focus shots from the Bridges of Madison County.
 
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Which is exactly why I never posted it here. It's a 5 gig file compressed down to 30meg and I learned long time ago never to post any footage here.
It's not worth listening to the bickering about what people think they see or they don't see.
I set the camera up for the way I want to set it up. I have no idea if my setup shows what the camera can do. There could be much better settings that result in better footage. I don't know. I set it up how I like my footage to look and I leave it there. So, I'm not going to post something that people will pick apart because of something that _I_ did in setting it up or compressing the footage and have them blame the camera when it could very easily be the way I set it up.


I'm not insulted, I just know that's what happens here when footage gets posted of a new camera which is again why I never posted anything here to begin with.
I'm just glad I chopped the last two minutes off of the original edit. It was all slider shots and rack focus shots from the Bridges of Madison County.
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kevin-

thank you for taking the time to post your hpx250 footage.

those of us who are interested in the hpx250 welcome the opportunity to see what the camera can achieve and boy did you manage quite the achievement.

thank you for sharing your energy and obvious talents.

be well

rob
smalltalk productions
 
wgzn said:
i hate to rain in everyone's cornflakes here. or to insult the shooter. as this is absolutely lovely STILL video imagery.

but i think showing locked off footage is a pretty lousy way of demonstrating the performance of a VIDEO camera. especially since aliasing, rolling shutter and jitter are such big niggling points about cmos cameras these days.

in the one moving shot there was in the clip. i saw what appeared to be alaising all over the place. same in his zoom test. now this may have been an artifact of the web export. so i dont want to be one of those people screaming bloody murder over nothing.

that said. these days ive become suspicious of any test clips that dont show footage with the camera itself moving : (
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wgzn-

i appreciate your sentiments but the kind fellow who shot the footage wasn't out at dawn in the iowa cornfields so he can answer the questions you might have about the hpx250.

what you probably meant to say was something like,

"thanks for shooting some lovely footage. i can't wait for other folks to post their efforts so i can judge issues like aliasing, rolling shutter and jitter."

where i come from, first you say thank you then you ask for more.

ymmv

be well

rob
smalltalk productions
 
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Thanks Rob.

Like I said it was never intended to be scrutinized for artifacts, jello etc. That's why I didn't post it here because I knew it would be.
If I wanted it to be scrutinized I would have posted the raw footage for people to download. But even then, does it really show what the camera can do if I set it up wrong?
Wait for someone like Barry who knows what he's doing before passing judgement on this camera. He'll have all the charts, the whip pans, the comparisons. But I've seen when even Barry's findings are contradicted by people here. So who knows.
I love the camera. I want one to replace my 170. That's all that matters to me.
 
I thought the cornflakes tasted funny...ewww. I too wanted to see full screen stuff. It is beautiful, no two ways about it. Having said that, I think no disrespect was shown in wanting to see the camera put to the test.
CMOS is a known quantity and Panasonic has stated that improvements have been incorporated into the cameras design...it goes without saying folks want to see the proof. No big deal...no negative anything.
 
geez gang - SENSITIVE MUCH?

didnt i say right up front that it was really nice footage? and it is. i do apologize sincerely to everyone if my reply was taken more negatively than it was intended. and apologize to directly to kevin for any offense or perceived hostility. or at very least that i was the poster child representing his hesitation : )

kevin's footage was all gorgeous. and the camera clearly has superb range. and due to this footage i'm a good bit more excited about seeing one in person. where before i was more or less uninterested...

but we all have to admit that there is a marked trend of video devices that dont really handle camera motion or moving detail as well as many of us are used to. i know there are a lot of variables to that situation. and i also know that there are a lot of you here in the indie / feature biz. but there are as many, or id gamble to say more who come from a more ENG / event / news perspective who are used to our video cameras being video cameras. and not having to start treating our video cameras like motion picture film cameras.

im personally very hesitant with the CMOS thing and im sorry if my less than stellar experience with and perception of the current crop of gear, too often falls on the ears of a niche with a different set of expectations.
 
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SENSITIVE MUCH? - You mean Low Light?

SENSITIVE MUCH? - You mean Low Light?

Looks like people are geeked up... literally chomping at the byte (sorry) desperate for info & footage!!!

wgzn - you will soon have your test footage, pix peeping tests and tons of reviews soon... I can't wait either.

n8ture - thx for posting (allowing Barry to post) the footage, very nice... always leaving them wanting more.
 
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