JVC HD100 is great 10/10

In another forum someone was saying that HD would replace film but not with a 1/3 CCD

I am happy to report that JVC is doing amazing things 1/3ccd. It is definately a heck of a lot better than my DVX100 in standard DV mode.

Today I did my second gig for my local cable company filming a department store 15 second commercial spot.

I must shoot in DV mode because the station is not HD ready.

The station staff was going to bring a DSR300 but fortunately they were all signed out. So once again we used the HD100 in DVmode. We brought a ref monitor with us and the Station guys was impressed. The fact that they had to study the output for so long to determine how close to the DSR300 was a compliment. They beleived it required more light and wasen't as crisp as the dsr300. My I repeat in DV mode.

To even be compared to such a cam is a huge compliment. Especially seeing that the HD100 dosen't cost anywhere close to a DSR300. All of there the station crew agreed that its damn good and definitatly pro enough.

Let me repeat in DV mode.

Once again I stat I love this cam.

One thing I did find one thing wrong. Play back of HDV from the cam has a unusable studder/gitter. I can see why JVC tries to promote BR50 HDV player unit.

Native cam out is fine and output from my NLE is fine but play of HDV matterial from tape is doesn't look good. Unless I am doing something wrong. Still figuring it out.

Hey Barry green.

What is the difference between DV and SD modes in the HD100?
 
DV mode is regular DV, so 720x480x60i.

"SD" mode is progressive-scan video at the same resolution, but at 60 full progressive frames per second -- so 720x480x60p. DV mode is encoded using DV compression, but SD mode is encoded using MPEG-2 compression.

Basically "SD" mode is an HDV version of standard-def video, but at 60 frames per second.
 
Wow...that's great.

Hey Barry...I'd to take this time to extend my appreciation for your expertise and support for young pros like myself in this industry.
 
Barry can you confirm my HDV playback problem? Is it me or is the play back imaging on motion with componet out not smooth.
 
sonisfear said:
The fact that they had to study the output for so long to determine how close to the DSR300 was a compliment. They beleived it required more light and wasen't as crisp as the dsr300. My I repeat in DV mode.

To even be compared to such a cam is a huge compliment. Especially seeing that the HD100 dosen't cost anywhere close to a DSR300. All of there the station crew agreed that its damn good and definitatly pro enough.
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I agree with this. The clips that were posted were so dead on in the wave monitor, I couldn't see much fault. I also agree (from the posted clips) that a touch more light would have been nice but you could absolutely get away with not adding more light and it was completely in the legal spectrum and IRE range.
 
sonisfear said:
Barry can you confirm my HDV playback problem? Is it me or is the play back imaging on motion with componet out not smooth.
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Well, without seeing exactly what you're talking about, I can only guess. Are you talking about dropouts? Or judder?

If it's dropouts, a head cleaning and sticking to one brand of tape should solve it. And yes, you may need to clean the heads on a brand-new camera (but only do so if it's necessary).

If it's the judder you're talking about, all I can say is: I told you so. (not you in particular, just the world in general). The live component output of the camera is 60p, which gives you the glass-smooth "reality" look. But on tape the best it can do is 30P. Which means stuttery/juddery footage, if you don't shoot with 30p (or 24p) in mind.

In high-def on the HD100, you will never be able to get that glass-smooth "reality" look recorded on tape. It just can't do it. And playing back in the deck won't change anything. That's all the camera can do. What you see (on playback) is what you get.

You can try the "motion smoothing" filter, but in the examples I've played with it, it seems to trade juddery footage for blurry footage, not exactly a welcome trade.

If you want that glass-smooth "reality" look, you cannot shoot in HD on the camera. You'd have to swap over to the "SD" mode (or "DV" mode) for that. In high-def it cannot deliver "reality" style footage. It's something I've been trying to prepare people from from the first day the camera was announced, but I still think a lot of people are going to be in for an unpleasant surprise when they find what it really means.
 
Hhmmm.. I must study this...

It looks decent after post. I do notice a bit of motion blurr but usable. what I see is double images of things that move.

okay it time to visit the store and test my tapes on the BR-50 playback deck.
 
I tested the HD100 today on my local dealer. I'm generally very well impressed with it. First impression, a little disappointment with its size... but half an hour before I was working with a digibeta, of course JVC looked to me very small.

I have nothing new to say about it, everything was posted already... Personally I really liked the ergonomics, with the standard battery it's perfectly balanced and very very stable. I didn't like the viewfinder, the resolution is not bad, but there is some drag when you make some fast movements. In low light conditions it could be better, however in SD mode it's significantly better.

They connected to a HD monitor and we watched some previously recorded footage, I noticed some chroma aberrations in a close shot, a white chair that was not directly exposed to sun light, however we were about 8 guys with some experienced eyes and no one saw it but me, well... I was the only one looking for it and it was hardly noticed.

Than I covered the lens, putted the gain at 18db and searched for dead pixels... there were some but very, very small... I had to stick my nose to the screen to find them. Finally after about 2 minutes looking to the black screen in different positions, I could see the split screen. It was darker on the right side, but it's another thing that I wouldn't notice if I didn't know.

Overall conclusion, it's a very ergonomic and well constructed camera, with a real pro touch, very good image quality in both HD an SD modes (menu parameters set to default) and an excellent option for it's price. It's issues didn't bother me, they would if it was a 50.000€ cam.
 
athouguia said:
Personally I really liked the ergonomics, with the standard battery it's perfectly balanced and very very stable.
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Damn, and I already bought an IDX outfit :huh:

Anyhow, I'm worried a little it might be too back-heavy with the small IDX's on... (a bit is no problem, but a lot might be...) - I guess I NEED to buy the 13x3.5 then :grin: (would my wife buy that, y'think? :beer: )
 
Mezelf, keep in mind that the standard battery only lasts about half an hour, don't be sorry for your purchase.

The IDX or A/B solution is not that important for balancing the camera, trust me, it is very well balanced. I was afraid it would be like the XL1, but the difference is night and day. However the suplied lens is a small and light one... I don't know how it would became with other lens.

Anyway, I won't buy another power system for now, I prefer to spend some money on a wide converter and a zoom control...
 
athouguia said:
...I noticed some chroma aberrations in a close shot, a white chair that was not directly exposed to sun light, however we were about 8 guys with some experienced eyes and no one saw it but me, well... I was the only one looking for it and it was hardly noticed.

Than I covered the lens, putted the gain at 18db and searched for dead pixels... there were some but very, very small... I had to stick my nose to the screen to find them.
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Cosign on all this. I got my camera yesterday, and did the checks. There's some pixels under +18 that while not full stuck on, are close. Also, the split is visable under +18 also.

Frankly, I care a little but it's not a showstopper. Not regretting in the slightest.
 
To give you a little back ground I was HDTV shopping and found that all the TV's I tried there was this unusable flicker with the HD100. I would not get this flicker in Native mode.

This was weird to me because the same footage didn't do this in post nor do I remeber it doing that in the store on the expensive HD ref monitors.

At first I thought it was the cam but as I started testing again I found that most of consumer TVs don't handle the 720p well but was fine in 1080I upconverted.

Its curious that the problem didn't occure with native mode.

I think the Tv's I was testing ($400-$800 26"/30" trying to save dough:^) don't like the 30 frames in 720P mode.

Anyway isues is solved..I think....
 
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