Jvc gy-l300

Thanks for posting. The camera has plenty of detail in the image. I look forward to seeing different shooting environments and if they can get a more filmic look out of the footage. Looks nice but definitely like a video camera to me.
 
Video summary:

- Sales rep reiterates that MFT mount allows for full coverage of the Super 35 imager
- mentions that lenses like Rokinon cover sensor yet have native MFT mount. No adapter required! (I would add that Zeiss CP.2 and SLR Magic likewise come in MFT mounts.)
- can record to card while also streaming over Internet, by WiFi dongle, Ethernet jack, etc.
- $4,450
- available in March
- electrical connections for MFT lenses
- crop modes for MFT, S16, or custom size
- web browser remote control of camera
 
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Man, this camera looks so good on paper, with plenty of nice features. I just hope the image quality lives up to the rest of it's spec sheet. The footage posted by Delimex looks decent, but there seems to be some hi-light clipping in a few of the shots. I'm kinda questioning the dynamic range of this thing. It looks on par with my AF100. Lack of DR is my biggest gripe with the Panasonic. Hopefully more footage will come out. (Preferably ungraded)
 
The DR of the sensor is 10.5 so to bad
However the camera is perfect in many ways, this makes it fall behind all competition.
10.5 stops is even less than the iphone shoots.
 
combatentropy said:
Video summary:
- Sales rep reiterates that MFT mount allows for full coverage of the Super 35 imager
- mentions that lenses like Rokinon cover sensor yet have native MFT mount. No adapter required! (I would add that Zeiss CP.2 and SLR Magic likewise come in MFT mounts.)
- electrical connections for MFT lenses
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Still sounds really defensive. I've said it before, I don't know why they didn't go with Sony's E-Mount. JVC has had a relationship with Sony to use XDCam-EX, so I don't think it would be unreasonable. And then you don't have to talk about how there are MFT mounted lenses that will cover a chip larger than MFT.
 
zijital said:
Where are you getting the 10.5 stops from?
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Last I heard, they're using the AL41410C sensor from AltaSens, a company they now own. The specs now give a dynamic range of 68 dB. One f-stop is 6 dB. So that's 11.3 f-stops. Funny, I've been there before, and I think it said something like 64 dB, which is about 10.5 stops. Maybe they improved it. Still, it's only 11.3 stops and for that sacrifice you don't even get a global shutter.


zijital said:
I don't know why they didn't go with Sony's E-Mount.
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I don't know for sure why they did, except that the Four Thirds mount is an open standard, unlike every other mount out there. The E-mount is to me just some more proprietary shenanigans typical of Sony. In the face of the lens mount zoo that was already out there, Sony introduced yet another one that's proprietary, and I hope it dies a fiery death ;)
 
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Also when you see the demo footage you can conclude it is not much on DR.
The video is nicely lit but the camera is stressed about it in the skintones and the highlights.
 
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I like the concept/ specs of this camera. Just waiting for a few "Real World" reviews from additional cinematographers. $4450 is ok, but better selling point would be UNDER $4000. Again, need more footage from others.............

The concept is exactly what we wanted from Panasonic (our beloved AF200 or AF100 MKII or ???)............
 
The dynamic range of the sensor (as reported on the AltaSens site at 68db or 11.3 stops) appears to be quite similar to the Canon C300. If you pay attention to the highlight clipping (AF100 users are used to this), I'm going to guess that good results can be obtained from this camera in most shooting environments. It would be great if they incorporated SLog in the final product! I think their price point reflects this lower performance in DR, but I also think they clearly had the thought of stealing Panasonic's thunder in coming out with their own "AF200." It's hard not to like the on-paper specs of this cam.

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Why not? It's pretty diverse. You can go all the way with PL, FD, Nikon and Canon with or without speedbooster and it has an amount of native lenses. Could not think of more you want from a mount.
 
Joost said:
Why not? It's pretty diverse. You can go all the way with PL, FD, Nikon and Canon with or without speedbooster and it has an amount of native lenses. Could not think of more you want from a mount.
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I'm guessing native mount lenses with a super 35 FOV is what some want. It's all
just personal preference, no real right or wrong answer.
 
I think It could be worse. It's probably also a licence thing. Because NEX would be a more logic choice since it's FF/APC.
They could have choosen Canon,PL or Nikon but then your very limited on your choice.
 
Joost said:
I think It could be worse. It's probably also a licence thing. Because NEX would be a more logic choice since it's FF/APC.
They could have choosen Canon,PL or Nikon but then your very limited on your choice.
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That would make sense. Because NEX is a great mount also that has the advantage of super 35 FOV.
But if you can't license NEX mount, M4/3 is probably the next best because it too has a shallow flange
that allows you to use a lot of third party lenses. I also think that this camera isn't getting as much
hype because it's JVC. I will be interested to see how it performs though. It certainly may be very
popular with the AF100 and GH2/3/4 shooters! Looks a little like the AF200 that many wanted with
the added bonus of being able to shoot M 4/3 FOV with native lenses and Super 35 FOV with adapters
to Canon or Nikon. Interesting piece of gear for sure.
 
Not sure why peeps dissin' MFT mount. I suspect it's based on negative association. "It's not 'professional' enough..."
Truth is; MFT is here to stay and it's being recognized by many lens and camera manufacturers these days.
Hell; you want to strap top-of-the-line glass to your camera? Zeiss offers their Compact Primes in a MFT mount. (sorry, no NEX)
If that price tag is a little too steep for some, there's always Rokinon Cine lenses in MFT mount on the other end of the spectrum.
I imagine there will be more choices in the near future. Especially if cameras like these start selling in reasonable quantities.
 
Could the m43 mount have anything to do with the fact that JVC was recently owned by the same parent company as Panasonic? I know JVC has had other m43 mount cameras so it kind of makes sense to stick with a standard instead of jumping all over the place. JVC is also a supported of m43 although I'm not sure if they are considered a full partner.

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/

You can read the article on the above link how JVC supports m43.
 
Thomas Smet said:
Could the m43 mount have anything to do with the fact that JVC was recently owned by the same parent company as Panasonic? .
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If by "recently", you mean fifty five years ... (1953-2008).

Anyhow, I think the real problem is that JVC doesn't make photographic equipment, and so they had to go with an open source MFT. The sensor size is good enough for a low-to-mid market niche. The only setback I can see here is that it's not a full 4k image with MFT lenses but rather something in the 3.5K range before Debayering. From the market perspective, the sensor should have been around 13 MPX and the MFT lens crop would be the market norm.

For those who speak German - (and, for those who don't, some sample footage can be seen beginning at 13:49)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cskFvlJ_eJA
 
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DLD said:
If by "recently", you mean fifty five years ... (1953-2008).

Anyhow, I think the real problem is that JVC doesn't make photographic equipment, and so they had to go with an open source MFT. The sensor size is good enough for a low-to-mid market niche. The only setback I can see here is that it's not a full 4k image with MFT lenses but rather something in the 3.5K range before Debayering. From the market perspective, the sensor should have been around 13 MPX and the MFT lens crop would be the market norm.

For those who speak German - (and, for those who don't, some sample footage can be seen beginning at 13:49)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cskFvlJ_eJA
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They didn't completely part ways until 2012. Panasonic was still a major shareholder of JVC Kenwood between 2008 and 2012.
 
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