Just Got FS700 & Odyssey 7Q Today - Now Some Questions

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pifemaster

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Hello Everyone,

I just purchased a new Sony NEX-FS700RH & Odyssey 7Q (with 2-512gb SSD's & Sony RAW option) and received them today. Right now my head is about to explode as I am trying to learn and setup everything.

I have a couple of questions I hope you guys can help me with:

When I record to the Odyssey using 4K2HD with Picture Profile 7 (Slog2), what is the easiest way to apply some sort of SLOG2 - REC709 LUT easily within Adobe Premier Pro CC? When I import the clips in Premier Pro, the look very lifeless and flat. I have never messed with Slog and have no idea what to do.

Also, When I copy the files from my SSD's to my PC, the folder structure is setup like this:

}CLIPS{______________ODYSSEY >> CLIP0000001, CLIP0000002, ETC >> CLIP0000001.xml, CLIP0000001_000.mov

Right now I have been copying all of the folders located under the root directory CLIP0000001, CLIP0000002, ETC to my local PC. The problem is that when I go to import the clips into Premiere using the media browser, I must navigate inside each folder & choose the .mov clip to import. This can be very time consuming if you have 75-80 clips to import. Is there a better way to copy/import all of the footage from the SSD's

Thank you,
Robert Pfeifer
www.pifemaster.com
 
Mitch Gross said:
Try using our ProRes Transfer Tool. It is how you should download the material off your SSDs onto your computer and should make things easier for you.

http://www.convergent-design.com/Downloads.aspx
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I just downloaded & used the transfer tool and it does the exact same thing. When it transfers the clips to the PC it also transfers all of the individual folders. This means that to import the clips into premiere using the media browser, you must navigate to and open up each individual folder. Surly there has to be an easier way to import clips?

Thank you,
Robert Pfeifer
www.pifemaster.com
 
pifemaster said:
I just downloaded & used the transfer tool and it does the exact same thing. When it transfers the clips to the PC it also transfers all of the individual folders. This means that to import the clips into premiere using the media browser, you must navigate to and open up each individual folder. Surly there has to be an easier way to import clips?

Thank you,
Robert Pfeifer
www.pifemaster.com
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Do you have a Mac? If so, this is a relatively easy way to get all the MOVs out:

In Finder, open the footage folder that has all of the Odyssey clip folders. Then, in the upper right search bar (on the Finder window) search "kind:mov". Make sure the search is limited to the footage folder (check the picture I attached) and not set to search the whole Mac.
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From here, you can drag the MOVs to another Finder window and voila, they are no longer isolated.
 
jshbckr said:
Do you have a Mac? If so, this is a relatively easy way to get all the MOVs out:

In Finder, open the footage folder that has all of the Odyssey clip folders. Then, in the upper right search bar (on the Finder window) search "kind:mov". Make sure the search is limited to the footage folder (check the picture I attached) and not set to search the whole Mac.
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From here, you can drag the MOVs to another Finder window and voila, they are no longer isolated.
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Thanks for the response Josh. Unfortunately, I have a PC. I just tried doing this and it did not work for me.

Thank you,
Robert Pfeifer
www.pifemaster.com
 
You could just drag and drop the }CLIPS{______________ODYSSEY folder to you project panel, the folder will then show up in premiere, but without its subfolders, leaving just the .mov files in there - This works great, assuming you only shot Prores, when mixing cdng and prores it's a different story again...
 
Ran into a similar issue with the c300 that creates separate folders for each clip. I also work on a pc and the search method with a file extension is a great workaround. It works the same as on a mac so you shouldn't have a problem.

I guess after using CD's merge / migrate tool navigate to the master directory, use the search box in the upper right hand corner and type the extension of the file(ie .mov, .cdng, .avi). Make sure you include the period or the search function will not find the specific extensions.
 
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stefanhuberfilms said:
You could just drag and drop the }CLIPS{______________ODYSSEY folder to you project panel, the folder will then show up in premiere, but without its subfolders, leaving just the .mov files in there - This works great, assuming you only shot Prores, when mixing cdng and prores it's a different story again...
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Thank you very much for this tip. I played around a little today and this is going to work the best for me. I think my workflow will be to create a folder on my local hard drive and then use the Convergent Design ProRes Transfer Tool to transfer all of the clips from the SSD's to that folder. Then I can drag that folder to my project window inside of Premiere Pro and all of the .mov clips will be there (without the individual folders).

I knew there had to be an easier way than navigating through each individual folder :-)

Thank You,
Robert Pfeifer
www.pifemaster.com
 
pifemaster said:
Thank you very much for this tip. I played around a little today and this is going to work the best for me. I think my workflow will be to create a folder on my local hard drive and then use the Convergent Design ProRes Transfer Tool to transfer all of the clips from the SSD's to that folder. Then I can drag that folder to my project window inside of Premiere Pro and all of the .mov clips will be there (without the individual folders).

I knew there had to be an easier way than navigating through each individual folder :-)

Thank You,
Robert Pfeifer
www.pifemaster.com
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I just have to say that this was really helpful. I'll be importing my clips this way too. With the CD ProRes Transfer tool to a folder on my desktop, then dragging that folder to my PP project window.

I haven't had a long clip yet, but i assume this will bring it in all stitched together?
 
ChadN said:
I just have to say that this was really helpful. I'll be importing my clips this way too. With the CD ProRes Transfer tool to a folder on my desktop, then dragging that folder to my PP project window.

I haven't had a long clip yet, but i assume this will bring it in all stitched together?
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Yes, that's the idea.
 
Is it me, or does this method seem impractical for organizing a large number of clips in different categories? If I may ask, how are some of you organizing your media once you drag it in?

Genuinely curious as I often end up with a decent hierarchy after organizing everything, and this is long before I even open premiere.
 
For me, this solution works well. I am shooting wedding receptions. After an event, I will create a directory on my PC (clients name - wedding date) Under that directory I create a folder called MEDIA. This is the folder I dump all of the footage from that particular wedding reception in to (using the Prores Transfer Tool). Then I can drag that media folder into my premiere project panel and all of the clips will appear without the individual folders. I can then import any other assets or further organize into additional folders by just dragging & dropping them within the project panel.

Thank you,
Robert Pfeifer
www.pifemaster.com
 
LeoGrey said:
If I may ask, how are some of you organizing your media once you drag it in?
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usually i create a folder in Finder called FOOTAGE, then camera subfolders - camera1, camera2 or named after the camera operators.
In those, i create folders for the different SSD's or cards AND Folders named according to the recording Formats.
in case of recording with an O7Q, i then use the raid merge tool to merge the whole footage from SSD1 and SSD2 into a folder called MERGED.
then i start transcoding the different recording formats in Resolve and output them to the different folders (which i just created above).
of course i don't transcode the 4K2HD files again, and just drag them into the 4K2HD folder.
PROJECT
FOOTAGE
CAMERA1
SSD1 from offloading SSD1
SSD2 from offloading SSD2
MERGED contains the merged raw footage
4K2HD Prores Files moved here from the MERGED folder
2K240p transcoded 2K240p Prores files
4K60p transcoded 4K60p ProRes files
4K24p transcoded 4K24p ProRes files
ETC.
CAMERA2
SSD1
SSD2
MERGED
4K2HD
2K240p transcoded
4K60p transcoded
4K24p transcoded
ETC.
After that i open Premiere, create FOOTAGE and CAMERA bins and drag and drop the folders (4K2HD, 4K60p transcoded, etc.) each on its own onto the CAMERA bin.
You will then have the exact same file structure in Premiere as you have in your Finder/Explorer - except the SSD1, SSD2 and MERGED folders of course.
 
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