Jib shots and frame rate

NorBro

NorBro

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Hi,

It will be my first time using a jib/crane for a short. The only delivery will be web.

Which frame rate would you recommend? I'm leaning towards 30p. I think I may be able to use 24p, but not sure how the strobing and the jib get along. Thoughts?

How about 720/60p?

Thanks.
 
You won't have any trouble shooting at 24p with the jib, are you planning on doing any super quick pans?
 
If you shoot 60p you will have more ability to slow down the move if needed in 30p timeline. Many new jib owners do their moves too fast until they get more experience.
 
Also, consider speed-ramping. I don't know if you're working to a larger style guideline that might demand a certain frame rate, but IME, it is better to shoot 30 frame or more if there is any chance post is going to ramp your shots. In my line of work, jib shots are ramped a lot!
 
I'm sure we will ramp a little. Maybe we'll try the 720/60. I just feel like I always want to shoot in 1080, but one of my colleagues claims it's overkill for the web anyway. There were thoughts floating around to try and get the shots in a few different frame rates, but I think that would be a mess later on going through everything. Personally, I also don't have the experience mixing frame rates in one timeline.
 
If going to the web only (or primarilly), then I'd be shooting at 720. If you want a video look, shoot at 720p/60. If you want a filmic look, shoot at 720p/24.

Let the above be your thought process. How you get your shots will be adjusted based on the answers to the above, not the other way around.
 
Agree 1080 is overkill for the web, UNLESS you want to do some frame cropping. Its nice to have the option of better close ups or framing in post.

60p can convert into 30p easily, so I am thinking its better to shoot in 60 anyways in case you do what to slow down any footage by up to 50% and not lose any frames. I think your finally delivery should be 720/30p for the web anyways which is a much smaller file over 60p.

You will have to move slow and plan your shots a little more with 24p, but this will look more cinematic and since you are shooting a short you may want this look.
 
For the web, I'd be shooting 720. Anytime my company busts out our jib, we overcrank at 720/60 so that we can speedramp in post as Erik suggests above! If you are shooting 720p/24 for the rest of the short, and want to use 720p/24 for the jib moves, go slowwwww - I mean slower than what feels normal, especially if this is you're new to jib moves!
 
delivery should be 720/30p for the web anyways which is a much smaller file over 60p.
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Neither frame rate nor resolution will have any effect on file size. That is determined primarily by only two things - duration and bitrate. And this makes sense if you think about it. Files are measured in bytes. So file size is determined by how many bytes (or bits) per second x how many seconds.
 
I just got back to this thread. Yea, I learned my lesson...definitely need to shoot 60p. I want the look of 24p, but just too much strobing. Not even moving that fast either.

Tried the 60p workflow with over-cranking and I like it. The rest of the production has already been filming with 24p, so here goes nothing. In a few weeks, you'll see my next question: "How do you mix framerates in one project?" Haha, j/k. I know there is probably hundreds of those and I've read some myself. I will try to grab jib shots with 24p too so we can just keep same frame rate, but just really difficult right now.
 
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