Jello has me terrified/exhausted

Rubbersquare

Rubbersquare

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I bought a d90 for more than the video, but picked the d90 because of the video.

anyway, anything i shoot, i think, is unwatchable thanks to the slow refresh rate/jellovision. even on wide lenses. i walked, very carefully, with the kit lens on 18mm and was stunned by the jello. i can't even pan at my kid's baseball games, can't even do more than lock down and fight with the focus between pitches.

how am i going to shoot anything remotely watchable?

stairstep-good.
manual tweaks-good
jello-f*cked.

help ? ! ? !
 
That's just the hard part of the D90. You need to relearn how to hold a camera and how to move with it. People have done handheld stuff with little to no jello, you just need to be as steady as possible and, if you have it, use the VR function on your lens at all times. Also, don't forget, SLOW DOWN! You aren't going to be doing run-n'-gun with this camera, it'll be skewed all over the place no matter what.
 
You just have to have patience. And a lot of it. And a VR lens or a wide angle.

All three actually.

The camera demands workarounds in video mode, Jello and Blocky Compression will be there no matter what firmware updates may come. But it's pretty nice for what it is.

Just be patient. I couldn't do that. I shot a few things with the D90 and just couldn't get over having to spend time tricking it into this and that.
 
Haa...great camera..I shot a 40 min film with it and my HVX and sold the film already. You need to know when to shake that thang. The jello is a great effect..but not all the time. Learn to use your tools. Enjoy!!
 
with all due respect if you're getting jello on 18mm you need to practice your basic operating technique. moving the camera that much will make the image very jumpy even with a global shutter. practice, practice, practice. it's hard to shoot handheld with the d90 for sure but on a wide angle it's quite doable.
 
all you have to do is look at films from people like Zak and you know you can get awesome video from the D90. Yes you have to be careful. I hope they improve the next one.
 
thanks, everyone. i was just getting frustrated. it does get great images for video. i'll just keep practicing.
 
on topic wise, as stated, stick with wider lenses and once you practice a little bit, your way of walking will adjust and you'll learn how to use your arms as a slight steadicam to minimize any vibrations.

Also, check this thread out, looks like people are on to something here:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=168868

I too am on the edge of going with the D90 or the GH1. Im waiting for the 400 to have official specs before making any decision. But with the stair stepping fix, im looking at giving the D90 a shot.
 
I shot a lot of footage handheld without the jello effect, at the beginning I used the strap around my neck and applied some tension to keep the movement steady, now after a lot of pratice I'm getting better at it.
 
Have been using a zacuto shoulder mount with mine - at 28mm, no problem at all, 50mm can be done, but it takes some work. As for pans and tilts its a careful combination of smooth movement and tracking your subject for me. The skew is still there, but tracking a non skewing subject makes it pretty much unnoticeable.
 
the strap method sounds like it might save a lot of jello from peoples footage without the add on of extra gear. Thanks for sharing!
 
Kholi said:
You just have to have patience. And a lot of it. And a VR lens or a wide angle.

All three actually.

The camera demands workarounds in video mode, Jello and Blocky Compression will be there no matter what firmware updates may come. But it's pretty nice for what it is.

Just be patient. I couldn't do that. I shot a few things with the D90 and just couldn't get over having to spend time tricking it into this and that.
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VR has no effect on video....it only activates the second the shutter is pressed and stops when the mirror is back into normal position....

so only for stills
 
You're absolutely incorrect. VR is employed during video recording. You saying that means you either don't own a D90 + Kit Lens or you just haven't bothered to actually turn the VR switch on.
 
In a case where you have no other equipment... stretch the camera strap all the way out... its a little hard on the neck but it helps my steadiness alot.
Edit: So this was already mentioned... whoops.
 
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