Is this guy mistaken?

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motox198

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It seems everybody over at Camcorderinfo.com seems to say the 24p is just a gimic. From what I have seen of the grabs on this website they have to be out of their mind.
So there saying, in post a PD170 can get the same look of the DVX in 24p A mode?


Posted by : Foxwood
"One last note...don't be taken in by the 24p deal with the 100a. A lot of producers suddenly wanted what was said to be "film look." Nothing looks like film but film, and if you want to drop frames now and then to achieve that "look", you can do it in post. The 100a simply drops 6 frames a second while shooting"
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=108904#post108904
 
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The DVX does NOT drop frames while shooting. The camera literally runs at 24hrz - 24 fps. It is then recorded to tape with one of two variant pull downs.

No you cannot get the same look from a PD-170. Anyone who tells you that is either in denial or hasn't played around with a DVX. You can mimick 24p with interlaced video but you will loose resolution and it will NOT look quite the same.
 
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I seriously can't stand camcorderinfo. I think they are the one of the biggest jokes on the net. Every single review that I have read about any camera on that site is either lacking facts, extremely biased and just plain untrue. Their reviewers seem to have no experience at all in real life camera work. Their tests are done wrong, and personally I feel they are just lacking in intellect. I wouldn't trust a single review, test, or preview from that site, no matter what the camera.
 
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And also, don’t pay attention to what some anonymous Internet poster says about it. Who knows what kind of axe he might have to grind? At best, he’s genuine, but genuinely misinformed. Come into the light . . .

What he describes, by the way, is how the Sony Cineframe24 works.
 
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..yes, he is mistaken. sadly, the internet ..and real wold for that matter is full of uninformed and mistaken people. "foxwood" is clearly among them in the instance of the given conversation.
 
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I actually didn't even follow the link, can't stand that site, but it has come to my attention that this was just a post of an internet user. My bad, however, I still stand firm in my stance of the actual writers at camcorder info.
 
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..i would lean towards your view of the credibility there as well. ive read some pretty audacious things at that site on occasion. they've made some pretty unintelligent statments very boldy.
 
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Oh, absolutely. I certainly didn't mean to defend the site's credibility. Just giving a further reason to dismiss it.
 
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I just registered and told him to go with the DVX for Music Videos. Anyone care to join in on the fun? :D
 
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[quote author=motox198 link=board=Events;num=1104779096;start=0#0 date=01/03/05 at 11:04:55]The 100a simply drops 6 frames a second while shooting"[/quote]
That is, of course, 100% wrong. Whoever said it quite simply has no idea what the facts are.

You can watch a film/dvx comparison on The DVX DVD, where I strapped a DVX to a film camera and shot identical scenes with identical motion, then telecine'd the film to video, split-screened the video, and made it available on DVD. The film motion is EXACTLY the same as the DVX 24P motion.

Exactly.

Identical.

No "dropped frames".
 
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[quote author=David Jimerson link=board=Events;num=1104779096;start=0#11 date=01/03/05 at 14:59:55]Let's not troll . . .  ::)[/quote]

haha, you're right, trolling is bad, it just frustrates me to think that misinformation is being spread when a guy simply asks for help deciding what cam to buy ya know?
 
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Thank you all for the correct information, I still have my faith in the DVX. I deffinitely believe there is no end in sight for this camera. Not for my needs for that matter.
 
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We just did 5+ hours of interviews in 24p and the results are beautiful! It has the look and "feel" of film regardless of what others may say. I am very pleased with the way our shoot turned out!
 
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Rofl Foxwood just got owned, hahaha :D

I hope it changed the guy's mind...
 
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