Is this greenscreen?

I could be totally wrong, but it looks to me like it's all about lights. There's too many shadows for keying.

Flooding the room/stage with light gets rid of all the shadows, and jumping to a different array provides the spotlight/shadows? Kind of guess.
 
id say its a 360 cyc and a lot of lights. would be too much work to simulate the shadows were it a chroma key situation.
 
wgzn said:
id say its a 360 cyc and a lot of lights. would be too much work to simulate the shadows were it a chroma key situation.
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so then the camera is on a steadicam. possible. but how do they all get into the cyc? seems seamless. are they lowered in from above? and where is the camera and operator in the shadows? if this is a real set then we can see it's not very big by the shadows running up the wall. and we see the cam do several full circles around talent. where are the shadows?
 
i dont ever see 360, I see about a 270 degree turn at most. and then I see enough screen flash in the lighting changes to hide edits. There are a ton of cut edits so it isn't really continious camera moves. It is a lot of similar footage and a lot of camera motion in the same direction so it feels more continious than it really is.
 
I just wonder if I am too old to "get" pop music today (46) but I don't think so. You are right, pop music is totally horrible today. I have been watching the VH-1 100 top 80s One Hit Wonders and sure, there were some disposable, bad 80s pop songs but there were some real gems too

Marshall Crenshaw - Someday, Someway
Neneh Cherry - Buffalo Stance
The Church - Under the Milky Way
Robbie Neville - Ces't La Vie
The Dream Academy - Life in A Northern Town
Crowded House - Don't Dream It's Over
and the list goes on. All one hit wonders, all great songs, all beautifully crafted three minute slices of aural magnificence (I used to work in a recording studio when I was a kid - a good pop song is a thing of wonder and much harder to create than the creators are given credit for).

Same with the 50s, 60s, 70s and even the 90s to an extent, there were some pop gems even in the 90s but after 2000, what do most kids think is good pop? American Idol Karaoke?

I feel sorry for kids today, they will never get to experience great, disposable pop songs unless they go into the time machine and listen to the older stuff.

Dan
 
Arson said:
i dont ever see 360, I see about a 270 degree turn at most. and then I see enough screen flash in the lighting changes to hide edits. There are a ton of cut edits so it isn't really continious camera moves. It is a lot of similar footage and a lot of camera motion in the same direction so it feels more continious than it really is.
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at 2:30 i see a big circle. no cuts.
 
FilmBoy77 said:
yea i was thinking "damn if its greenscreen they did a helluva job motion tracking the shadows"
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IF it is shot green screen the shadows are 'probly the easiest thing to make happen. On my Avid DS its actually a preset thats avail in the program. Essentially, you apply a drop shadow to the key and your good to go. But I guess you would expect something like that on a box that runs around 100K ... I'm sure that there are 3rd party plugs avail for doing the same thing in AE or Combustion though.
 
You can add shadows in Ultra with the click of a button. I've never keyed anything that I wanted to add shadows to though, so certainly not sure how it would look with people running around doing goofy dance moves. I could try it out though because ANY dance move I try is pretty goofy.
 
just to further take this discussion off topic.

You are right, pop music is totally horrible today
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that is said by every generation about the music of the next. my grand parents didnt like elvis, the beatles or the beach boys. my parents hated kiss and ozzy and motley crue. they just called it "screamy music" and i think that linkin park, theory of a deadman, nickelback, etc all sound like the same band.

sounds to me dan, that beyonce just aint FOR you. she isnt really for me either, but i dont know that this song is any quantifiably worse than say human leagues "fascination"...
 
Agreed, that was a terrible one too. Plenty of bad music from the 80s too, but not too many good alternatives today to Beyonce, etc.

I feel sorry for my kids as far as musical choices.

D
 
You could green screen this then make the back ground white (or whatever colour) but I would try and shot it in camera. You don't want to spend hours keying and making sure the shot is perfect on greenscreen. If you can get hold of one of these backdrops (may need to look for a studio that has one) then all you have to do is worry about the shot and camera settings.
 
FREUDENBERG_FILMS said:
You could green screen this then make the back ground white (or whatever colour) but I would try and shot it in camera. You don't want to spend hours keying and making sure the shot is perfect on greenscreen. If you can get hold of one of these backdrops (may need to look for a studio that has one) then all you have to do is worry about the shot and camera settings.
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that is exactly what i'm hoping for, except the artist is in DC and i'm in atlanta. she's checking on different locations there. i know exactly where i would go if it was shot here. i'm hoping i can find a spot up there with reasonable prices from the internet.
 
I saw the making of the video posted on this thread and I think it's a greenscreen room that they shot this in. And I think that's why they made "The Making" video in b&w

I can do the same thing in a greenscreen room and add the shadows in after effects.

that's how I would do something like this.

Because when the scenes get so lit and bright that everything becomes white, how do you explain the girls staying the same?

The only way I see that happening is by doing it in a greenscreen room.

I have a video tutorial at home that shows you how to add the shadows doing this on a greenscreen.

I don't get out of work til 3am.

I'll post the video up for you when I get home.
 
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