FS7: Is the hot shoe receiver for the UWP-D microphones available?

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Sorry If I don't understand this correctly, I'm trying to build the FS7 to be able to utilize the sony wireless mic system through the hot shoe / multi interface shoe expansion slot on top. As I do my searches I am very confused. What all do I need?

Do I need the SMAD-P3? Is there a kit that comes with the receiver and two transmitters? Am I wrong in understanding that the multi interface shoe can input two channels of audio? I can obviously continue using my senheiser G3's, but I would like to keep the two XLR inputs on the camera available and utilize the hot shoe port to power and take advantage of the extra inputs.

Please shed any light (along with any links) where I can get more information about this .Thanks!
 
After some additional digging around, I think that two channel input using just the multi interface shoe is only possible using the XLR-K2M http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1078571-REG/sony_xlr_k2m_xlr_box_mi.html but that is using XLR inputs which gets routed through the MI shoe.

The SMAD-P3 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1079814-REG/sony_smad_p3_multi_interface_shoe_adapter.html can be used with a UWP-D receiver and will power it though the MI shoe. There are no UWP-D receivers that can input more than one wireless audio transmitter, right?
 
That is correct. You can use the XLR-K2M to add a total of 4 XLR inputs to the FS-7, with two of them via the K2M and the MI shoe. Remove that and mount the SMAD-P3. That will allow the MI shoe both to power and input from the UWP-D receiver. And you are also correct that the UWP-D will only handle 1 transmitter. You could route 1 channel of audio to the MI shoe and one channel to the internal mic should you like.

Ned Soltz
 
I ditched a high end Micron TX/RX system, after testing the new Sony UWP-D for a couple of weeks.

I really didn't think the Sony would be good enough - but I think it's rather brilliant. Leagues ahead of the old system it replaced.

Stick a decent mic on there and it's a goodun. I'm using a Tram TR50 and Sony ECM 77.

Doesn't solve what to do with your Sennheisers - but it's a very neat system.
 
The UWP-D system is great, but there are a couple very important things to note.

First - early serial numbers of the UWP-D receivers (Sony URX-P03) have a fault in them that can generate unwanted electronic beeps. The issue is limited to earlier serial number units and only occurs when using the MI shoe and when the GPS module of the Sony PXW-FS7 is turned on.

To this end, if you're going to buy into the system, insist on a unit with a serial number above 1029XX. Turning the GPS off is a simple fix, but you shouldn't have to compromise, so don't. But if for whatever reason you have to work with one of these units with an early serial number - turn off the GPS, or your audio may be trash.

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Keep in mind the camera has two XLR ports, and can assign four channels of audio. You won't be able to use the MI shoe to directly receive two wireless signals, but you can use it for one wireless, and still have two audio channels for XLR input, and a fourth for the internal scratch mic.

If you want to use the MI shoe connection you do need an SMAD-P3. The base kit only includes cold shoe clips very similar to what you get with the Sennheisers.

Depending on your shoot requirements, buying one Sony UWP-D system for the hotshoe and running a secondary Sennheiser to the XLR port might make sense.

The UWP-D system has some cool and practical features, including the MI shoe connection for power/audio and the auto-scan and sync feature that finds clear channels, as well as the USB external power and charging option.
 
nsoltz said:
That is correct. You can use the XLR-K2M to add a total of 4 XLR inputs to the FS-7, with two of them via the K2M and the MI shoe. Remove that and mount the SMAD-P3. That will allow the MI shoe both to power and input from the UWP-D receiver. And you are also correct that the UWP-D will only handle 1 transmitter. You could route 1 channel of audio to the MI shoe and one channel to the internal mic should you like.

Ned Soltz
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Don't you mean "add two channels, for a total of 4 XLR inputs when counting the two on the body" ?
 
nsoltz said:
I'm using a Tram TR50 with my UWP and I'm very pleased with the audio.
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I too have a TR50 that I use with my sennheiser, I supposed i can move the Tram to the new UWP and keep the factory sennheiser mic as a backup. Very cool, and thanks for the input.
 
I too wish that they would make a TWO-CHANNEL diversity wireless system for the FS7 hot shoe. Most of my wireless use is for two actors speaking to each other...
Looking at the connector, it does seem that there are two channels available (Left & Right).
Please Sony, Make us a Two-Channel Unit, I don't have much use for a single channel wireless.
 
Cynthia Webster said:
I too wish that they would make a TWO-CHANNEL diversity wireless system for the FS7 hot shoe. Most of my wireless use is for two actors speaking to each other...
Looking at the connector, it does seem that there are two channels available (Left & Right).
Please Sony, Make us a Two-Channel Unit, I don't have much use for a single channel wireless.
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The shoe can definitely take two channels - it does it for the XLR-K2M adapter. So I think they could make it if they want to. I'd look seriously at one if they did.
 
One has been fine for me. I run my first UWP wirelessly via the MI shoe adapter 60 dollar part... then I connect the second UWP system via XLR and mount it to the provided piece of kit in the box with the fs7. that handy dandy little mounting point has saved me many times already with this camera and accessories. I also use the remaining XLR port for a shotgun mic and get a nice mix of all three channels out of my headphones and isolated audio tracks for the edit. I am happy with this workflow.
-Wes
 
Viddovation said:
The UWP-D system is great, but there are a couple very important things to note.

First - early serial numbers of the UWP-D receivers (Sony URX-P03) have a fault in them that can generate unwanted electronic beeps. The issue is limited to earlier serial number units and only occurs when using the MI shoe and when the GPS module of the Sony PXW-FS7 is turned on.

To this end, if you're going to buy into the system, insist on a unit with a serial number above 1029XX. Turning the GPS off is a simple fix, but you shouldn't have to compromise, so don't. But if for whatever reason you have to work with one of these units with an early serial number - turn off the GPS, or your audio may be trash.
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I Just got my Wireless system in today and you're right, there are unwanted beeps using the MI shoe with GPS turned on. It goes away if I turn it off, but that is really annoying. And my serial number begins with 1045XX, so it seems that the issue is still there. Hopefully Sony has a way to resolve this via firmware update.
 
PMP1115 said:
I Just got my Wireless system in today and you're right, there are unwanted beeps using the MI shoe with GPS turned on. It goes away if I turn it off, but that is really annoying. And my serial number begins with 1045XX, so it seems that the issue is still there. Hopefully Sony has a way to resolve this via firmware update.
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That's very unfortunate! I would either return it to the dealer and demand one without the issue, or open a warranty claim with Sony. Turning off the GPS is a short term solution, but the units should have never shipped with that defect. If you don't make a fuss and get out of warranty, you may be stuck with a unit that has lower resale value due to the defect.

Please note - I am very sure from my chats with Sony that this is a hardware issue with the URX-P03 wireless receiver, and not a firmware issue.

It's unacceptable on a variety of levels.
 
Wes. said:
One has been fine for me. I run my first UWP wirelessly via the MI shoe adapter 60 dollar part... then I connect the second UWP system via XLR and mount it to the provided piece of kit in the box with the fs7. that handy dandy little mounting point has saved me many times already with this camera and accessories. I also use the remaining XLR port for a shotgun mic and get a nice mix of all three channels out of my headphones and isolated audio tracks for the edit. I am happy with this workflow.
-Wes
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What is the benefit in not needing batteries or cables for your audio if you need batteries and cables for your second mic? If you could do the same thing with two mics it would be amazing.
 
Ben Scott said:
What is the benefit in not needing batteries or cables for your audio if you need batteries and cables for your second mic? If you could do the same thing with two mics it would be amazing.
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Well for one, just having to worry about one less device with batteries is nice. I have had mixed results with rechargeable batteries, so I prefer to use disposables on critical shoots. This will end up saving me a lot of money. Half on batteries to be exact, if only using one wireless.
 
Ben Scott said:
But you still need batteries and cables whereas you should be able to have two going through the MI
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It's a very different thing to say "I think a dual receiver would be even more useful than the single receiver" than to say "What is the benefit in not needing batteries or cables for your audio if you need batteries and cables for your second mic?"

As for a dual receiver, sign me up. But in the meantime, having one is still is still useful. It takes care of situations where only one wireless is needed, and allows me to reserve both XLR channels for other sources, and combined with the internal mic lets me use all four recorded channels of audio.
 
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