This old post from Hunter Richards does put useable range at around 6 stops for the GH1. Looking at the wildly varied figures, it's hard to make sense of what the DR is on both cams. If it's possible to pull out more detail from the shadows with improved compression ( via the hack ), then it does make sense that this figure is going to increase.
GH2 Is the hacked Gh2 seriously not blowing people away!!?
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stefancolson
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I haven't done any sort of controlled comparison, but shooting side by side with the 7D and 5DmkII the GH2 seems to do at least as well in terms of latitude/DR. I would be shocked if the GH2 (hacked) is less than 10 stops of DR.
Just a few comments...
I haven't done any of the hacks yet, but it seems like it should not be any riskier than doing a factory firmware update, like the upcoming one. There is always a little bit of a risk of bricking an electronic device when updating firmware, regardless of if it's a factory update or a hack. One of the main risks is losing power during the update, but there are procedures to minimize that risk (full battery).
Regarding dynamic range, the dpreview review does have film mode dynamic range, even with the various modes, with interactive graphs and everything - scroll down a bit on this page: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicDMCGH2/page12.asp - looks like 8 stops in nostalgic mode, at least according to them.
Also, you can measure it yourself: http://nofilmschool.com/2011/10/in-depth-tutorial-finding-cameras-exposure/
I haven't done any of the hacks yet, but it seems like it should not be any riskier than doing a factory firmware update, like the upcoming one. There is always a little bit of a risk of bricking an electronic device when updating firmware, regardless of if it's a factory update or a hack. One of the main risks is losing power during the update, but there are procedures to minimize that risk (full battery).
Regarding dynamic range, the dpreview review does have film mode dynamic range, even with the various modes, with interactive graphs and everything - scroll down a bit on this page: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicDMCGH2/page12.asp - looks like 8 stops in nostalgic mode, at least according to them.
Also, you can measure it yourself: http://nofilmschool.com/2011/10/in-depth-tutorial-finding-cameras-exposure/
J Davis
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thanks ... i don't have one yet, this would be pre-purchase research
Perry Wilson
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GH2 will NOT let you do a software updat UNLESS the battery has 3 bar, and updates only take a minute or 2
Danielvilliers
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Unfortunately I started a thread on personal-view about this situation that I was about the gh2 (hacked) need of recognition. The problem for me is that the gh2 is perhaps the least tested camera of the DSLR lot. Do you imagine that for me the first mature hd-DSLR is such an unknown quantity. Negligible moire/aliasing (even camera like the Sony F3 shows some), true high resolution, no heating, proper monitoring and very high bitrate and now intra codec and no proper test in the video mode. Things like the Dynamic range is pure mystery as have been discussed here. From the example I have seen it rivals the Canon. So as per the Zacuto test it should be around 11 stop!!!!!!! But if you listen to some it is more like 6.... with the patch and the way you can recover a lot more into the shadows it could be even higher than the Canon. So where is the truth.
Until we have some proper test, all this is just speculation. What will happen is that when the 1DX will come out, everybody will hail it as the true DSLR 2 camera and people will all be drooling of getting the $ 6800 camera while the gh2 is here. It is true that the 1DX will beat it in the low light and rolling shutter from what we have seen, but the gh2 is a true jewel nonetheless.
Until we have some proper test, all this is just speculation. What will happen is that when the 1DX will come out, everybody will hail it as the true DSLR 2 camera and people will all be drooling of getting the $ 6800 camera while the gh2 is here. It is true that the 1DX will beat it in the low light and rolling shutter from what we have seen, but the gh2 is a true jewel nonetheless.
Good point, but quite a few of us have invested in the AF100 and I'd love it if I could match the GH2's 176bpm with my AF100. Don't do it for the company. Do it for us, save us having to spend another $1000 on externals. I mean the only option for me now is to get a Samurai recorder/monitor which and then I'd be able to get in that ballpark with close to 100bpm. I mean that's incredible, isn't it. 176bpm, I'm guessing is lossless-projectable.
Agreed. I totally support the stand they're taking. But the AF100 with the 176Mb hack would be absolutely amazing. All the visuals and lens options of the hacked GH2 with all the convenience of the AF's camera body. XLR, SDI, timecode, top and side handle, dual card slots and more battery options. Heck, if I had an AF100 (which is still a very real possibility...) I'd pay for the hack.
To be honest, I don't see why Panasonic doesn't give in and embrace the hacks completely. Yes, yes... they want to protect the high end cameras. But there's no way the ENG and sports shooters are going to use the AF100. Give those of us in the $2,500 to sub - $10,000 range an ideal option. Okay that last is just my opinion. But the hacked GH2 won me over to still cams with motion capabilities. Why can't the best features of both types of cameras be merged better?
Ryan Farnes
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Yeah, what's up here? Price seems to be $899 now. Was $799 a couple of days ago right?
I shot this with an unhacked GH2 and was quite pleased with the quality of the footage that came straight out of the camera. This is the kind of stuff I like shooting and would appreciate any advice on which hack I should try out. I value stability and reliability over any incremental quality improvements that can be gained from a hack. I apologize if this has been answered in some other thread, but I've looked and can't find a definitive guide that outlines the advantages and drawbacks of each of the hacks. Thanks in advance!
http://vimeo.com/32345582
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http://vimeo.com/32345582
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Ryan Farnes
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Holy crap!
14-140 now back at $1499.
14-42 still at $899.
The 14-140 was at $1199 for a few days longer than the $799 14-42.
If only I'd known it was a temporary sale...
DPStewart
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Resolution be damned! THAT looks gorgeous!!!
When I see work like this I think to myself: "Just get killer glass and work on the grading!"
Thanks for posting.
(There's another guy here named dan.carter who posts really great works also done with a stock GH2.)
That looks fantastic, really really cool stuff. Great job!
I love both the GH2 and my Nikon 50mm f1.4. I had to put a variable ND filter in front of the glass, but the combo still offers up a beautiful look. Still need to work on lots of things like camera work and shot selection, but thanks for your kind words!
I appreciate the kind words.
gonzoish79
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That footage was rather impressive. Can't wait to get mine.
I don't care about the footage, I just want the girl's bloody phone number!
Kidding, looks good.